• oliveoil [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    The munitions dropped from drones and planes are likely much cheaper.

    But this is good agitprop against the war for Americans who care more about their wallets than morality.

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      About 1,100 people at the average rent in the US for a year.

      The operation itself costs ~$1B per day so that’s enough to house about 55,000 people for an entire year per day. Multiply that by the number of days so far and that’s nearly 400,000 people.

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        The problem with making sociopathic human-mimic demons that use speech and social pantomime primarily as a way of placating potential prey is that it’s really easy to project all sorts of exclusive ideologies onto it

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          I think it’s totally understandable that this makes a lot of people really uncomfortable given how much racist propaganda it mirrors. That’s a pretty good reason not to have the emoji IMO.

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            idk, it just seems like a strange reason to completely hate everything a fantastic story stands for. we have plenty of dragon ball emotes goku-doorstep despite the fact that that series has a ton of random sexual assault as humor from the main character’s beloved teacher (and various other characters), and that’s way worse than anything in frieren

            tbh the whole thing just feels like contrarianism to me. oh yeah, you like this wholesome refreshing fantasy story about the fleeting connections we make as mortal beings? im gonna find a way to make it sound racist so i can judge you for that smuglord

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              There’s a refreshing fantasy story about the fleeting impermanence of life that’s marred by the author’s intentional-or-otherwise take that because some sentient fantasy races are just born evil due to biology they must be exterminated. That’s not subtext, just the plain text.

              There are cool/good parts of the show I like and there are parts that I don’t like and take issue with. It’s weird that you’ve just straight up invented a guy to strawman and squash all the nuance here.

              Why is it that every time someone’s even a little bit critical of the treats here no one has the humility to say “Huh, I didn’t think of it like that, maybe I’ll consider your point of view?” instead of “Quit showing off your media literacy degree you wokescold!” It’s exhausting.

              I thought UlyssesT ended Treatlerism single-handedly when he went at it with the Game of Thrones fans on Hexbear all those years ago but guess not. Permanent Cultural Revolution! No Treat is Above Criticism!

              Edit: Hell, I’m not even opposed to Frieren emojis or anything. Do what y’all want, even if I won’t use them

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                Every struggle session always boils down to one side saying “This treat is potentially problematic sometimes, but you’re not a bad person if you still enjoy it.” and then the other side always going “HOW DARE YOU?! FUCK YOU! STOP CALLING EVERYONE YOU DON’T LIKE A NAZI! THERE ARE NO PROBLEMS WITH MY TREATS AND YOU’RE A CUCK WOKESCOLD IF YOU SAY THERE IS!”

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                I thought UlyssesT ended Treatlerism single-handedly when he went at it with the Game of Thrones fans on Hexbear all those years ago but guess not. Permanent Cultural Revolution! No Treat is Above Criticism!

                When Hexbear needed him most, he vanished. sadness

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                “Quit showing off your media literacy degree you wokescold!” It’s exhausting.

                I just want you to actually have any media literacy if you’re going to criticize something.

                Show: This is a wild animal that wants to attack you in the wilderness and eat you. It’s ok to kill it because it’s trying to kill you.

                You: Ok.

                Show: This is a monster that pretends to be a treasure chest. It’s okay to kill it because it’s trying to kill you.

                You: Ok.

                Show: This is a monster that pretends to be the ghosts of your loved ones. It’s ok to kill it because it’s trying to kill you.

                You: Ok.

                Show: This is a monster that pretends to be a harmless stranger. It’s ok to kill it because it’s trying to kill you.

                You: What the fuck, how dare you?

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                  You’re saying with so many words that I have no media literacy. Maybe that’s true. But please tell me then-

                  Why is framing the antagonists in this way necessary?

                  What themes or aspects of the story does this explore, that is integral to the core theme of exploring the beauty of the fleeting nature of life?

                  What does the story gain from including a scene where our heroic protagonist implores her party to… kill a little girl demon? And then why does the story go out of its way to justify the protagonist’s point of view as ultimately the only correct one?

                  (Hell, just straight up- why is the “monster” a little girl? Like, why did the author choose to portray the monster as a little girl? What was the purpose of this entire detour in the story? Was it really necessary to draw “nits make lice” comparisons, intentional or not?)

                  In all your other examples, the monsters are unthinking magical beasts, and no one is going to quibble about the ethics of self-defense in a wild animal attack. The demons on the other hand are presented as a civilized race capable of higher thought, except that they are biologically predisposed towards lying and magic fascism, so the only rational action on encountering one is to exterminate it.

                  If they’re just monsters, why does the author have to go out of their way to present them as civilized sentient beings? Can’t they just be monsters? What narrative purpose does this serve? Why did the author choose to write the antagonists like this?

                  Show: This is a monster that pretends to be a harmless stranger. It’s ok to kill it because it’s trying to kill you.

                  Comrade, do you not see the similarities with what you wrote here to what Israeli’s say about Palestinians?

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              It’s more like “this wholesome refreshing fantasy story about the fleeting connections we make as mortal beings that is really compelling has this one really uncomfortable part that is really poorly thought out and sticks out like a sore thumb.”

              A lot like the DBZ SA stuff come to think of it. A problematic element in an otherwise good story that some people can overlook, ignore or recontextualise but other people can’t and it creates friction around that.

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        I will say I am at least glad that the frieren author (amoung others) withdrew their series from mangaone after finding out about the whole Shogakukan scandal (hiring and protecting pdos / rpists)

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    Jesus fucking christ, THE DEMONS ARE THE FASCISTS AAAAHHHH

    The only way you could possibly believe otherwise is that you think all Japanese manga authors are genetically fascist. Which would be racist as fuck lmaooo

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      No, it’s actually extremely easy to believe that this specific manga author could be a fascist without involving genetics at all