• stoicEuropean@lemmy.ml
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    6 days ago

    I wonder. How can European politicians look at the US and their domestic ICE-problem. They see how unwanted ICE is, how much it hurts the republicans approval rating. The republicans approval rating has diminished further and further, partly (!) because of this. And EU Leaders are like… Yeah let’s also do this. Will be a good idea!

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      6 days ago

      There is a difference between a border police that is lawfully performing deportations, and the roaming gang of thugs that is ICE under the Trump government.

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          Hardly. The requirements alone to become a Frontex agent are miles away from the ones needed to be a ICE thug.

          Despite the sensacionalist title this group is doing mostly an harmonization of policies and increase efficiency along the Schengen area, something basic for an area with no internal borders and that is essential to keep Schengen alive.

          The alternative is what we’ve been seeing, national borders being resuscitated.

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            5 days ago

            You are absolutely right that Frontex is miles away from becoming ICE. There are illegal pushbacks nonetheless and we need some more oversight from external sources. Frontex has grown in recent years — it should not get out of control.

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      5 days ago

      Look at the biographies of European politicians and there will be American influence. All those cries about Russian influence distract from who makes the decisions.

      The EU itself is an American project to prevent French German cooperation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Élysée_Treaty about Controversy. Why expect less influence now?

      Immigration can also be seen as a tool to divide the population. That’s achieved so it doesn’t have to be supported further. But more diversity threatens the support for imperial politics.

      The approval ratings don’t matter anyway because almost all parties are influenced and do what they are told before caring about their voters. People don’t vote now. The media will be used to change the approval before the next election. To win the parties have to do what the media companies want, not what the voters want.