To be fair to Krusty, I think he was probably right in his assessment that the yanks would rather end all life on Earth than allow missiles on Cuba. They are animals with no regard for human life, and this has always been their trump card
[Castro - 2nd Letter to Khrushchev During the Cuban Missile Crisis]
I dont have anything else to add in terms of the missile crisis
Peaceful coexistence and competition with capitalist states actively working to strange you is reactionary.
The line held, from Marx and Engels through to Lenin and Stalin is that the revolutionary dictatorship must “not make excuses for the terror”. It must initiate and push to expand the sphere of revolution and must confront the reactionary states up to and including a “world war” against the reationary hegemon—if they do not, their revolution “is bound to be thwarted” by the hegemonic bourgeoisie.
Nothing but a world war could have given the BPP, AIM or any other orgs in the global north or its emerging neocolonial states “the conditions for a successful rising against their gigantic oppressors.” Without these conditions, no revolutionary group could be more than a spark in the pan, all of their social reforms amounted to “a pious wish” as the hegemon strangled them one by one.
Much like in 1848-9 (which the when above quotes are from—Marx’s new years address in 1849 hoped for a world war!), the revolutionary upheavals of the early 60s were put down because in every instance the USSR held to a foreign policy of pacifistic legalism (the UN).
Stalin’s appeasement before and after ww2 was a tactical move to prepare and to rebuild. Khrushchev elevated that tactical move to the level of principle and tried to compete with the imperial core on how many treats they could provide.
Lenin, Stalin and the whole party and all the soviet peoples worked for decades to forge a sword; Khrushchev and friends turned it into a ploughshare instead of slaying the weakened dragon. They ploughed fields talking with the dragon about peaceful coexistence. The dragon only ate people on his side of the line, recovered his strength, and plotted revenge.
They did Castro dirty dgmw. And it’s not that I disagree with any individual thing you’ve said. But I just don’t think we can discount the possibility/likelihood that holding firm against the US in this instance would have meant the immediate destruction of the USSR and possibly the world. Let us not forget that the USA was in a much better place strategically — that’s why Kruschev made his Cuba play to begin with. Can you look at everything the USA had done up to that point and conclude with absolute certainty that they were bluffing?
In the letter I posted, Castro very clearly acknowledges the possibility of thermonuclear war etcetc, he (and I) did not discount it. He simply realised that to give into nuclear blackmail out of fear of a possible end of the world is to give up on communism and accept bourgeois rule—and its rule inevitably leads to the end of the world
Tbqh I think the only sound strategic options were to back down or strike first and just accept nuclear armageddon as a given. And call me selfish but I’m glad he backed down.
I agree there were two options; i agree with castro on striking first being the better of the two policies; i agree with mao on nuclear annihilation not being the end of the world
Would I die (or, realistically, my grandmother)? Possibly. But you know who wouldnt die, who wouldnt suffer 70 years of the western boot on their face? The peoples of the global south on whose insecurity the first and second worlds’ security was founded on
And call me selfish, but i’d prefer nuclear annihilation of human civilisation to the slow extermination of most of the biosphere we seem.headed towards tbqh
No, i don’t mean the “CIA funded nazis” of the Hungarian Freedom Fighters Inc., funded in 1958 by people who left the country so by definition couldn’t be cracked down on by Khruschev but nice try, got anymore of them twitter screenshots?
LMAO imagine still simping for the nazi uprising in the year 2026. Sending in the tanks was one of the few good things cornboy did, and internal CIA documents - sorry “twitter screenshots” - prove it. Next up you’ll tell me China is genociding Uyghurs
FUCK YOU KHRUSHCHEV FUCK YOU FUCK YOUR DAMN PACIFICISM.THIS IS WHERE IT LEADS God fucking damn it Hopefully this is more hot air. Fuck
To be fair to Krusty, I think he was probably right in his assessment that the yanks would rather end all life on Earth than allow missiles on Cuba. They are animals with no regard for human life, and this has always been their trump card
[Castro - 2nd Letter to Khrushchev During the Cuban Missile Crisis]
I dont have anything else to add in terms of the missile crisis
Peaceful coexistence and competition with capitalist states actively working to strange you is reactionary.
The line held, from Marx and Engels through to Lenin and Stalin is that the revolutionary dictatorship must “not make excuses for the terror”. It must initiate and push to expand the sphere of revolution and must confront the reactionary states up to and including a “world war” against the reationary hegemon—if they do not, their revolution “is bound to be thwarted” by the hegemonic bourgeoisie.
Nothing but a world war could have given the BPP, AIM or any other orgs in the global north or its emerging neocolonial states “the conditions for a successful rising against their gigantic oppressors.” Without these conditions, no revolutionary group could be more than a spark in the pan, all of their social reforms amounted to “a pious wish” as the hegemon strangled them one by one.
Much like in 1848-9 (which the when above quotes are from—Marx’s new years address in 1849 hoped for a world war!), the revolutionary upheavals of the early 60s were put down because in every instance the USSR held to a foreign policy of pacifistic legalism (the UN).
Stalin’s appeasement before and after ww2 was a tactical move to prepare and to rebuild. Khrushchev elevated that tactical move to the level of principle and tried to compete with the imperial core on how many treats they could provide.
Lenin, Stalin and the whole party and all the soviet peoples worked for decades to forge a sword; Khrushchev and friends turned it into a ploughshare
instead of slaying the weakened dragon. They ploughed fields talking with the dragon about peaceful coexistence. The dragon only ate people on his side of the line, recovered his strength, and plotted revenge.
They did Castro dirty dgmw. And it’s not that I disagree with any individual thing you’ve said. But I just don’t think we can discount the possibility/likelihood that holding firm against the US in this instance would have meant the immediate destruction of the USSR and possibly the world. Let us not forget that the USA was in a much better place strategically — that’s why Kruschev made his Cuba play to begin with. Can you look at everything the USA had done up to that point and conclude with absolute certainty that they were bluffing?
In the letter I posted, Castro very clearly acknowledges the possibility of thermonuclear war etcetc, he (and I) did not discount it. He simply realised that to give into nuclear blackmail out of fear of a possible end of the world is to give up on communism and accept bourgeois rule—and its rule inevitably leads to the end of the world
Tbqh I think the only sound strategic options were to back down or strike first and just accept nuclear armageddon as a given. And call me selfish but I’m glad he backed down.
I agree there were two options; i agree with castro on striking first being the better of the two policies; i agree with mao on nuclear annihilation not being the end of the world
Would I die (or, realistically, my grandmother)? Possibly. But you know who wouldnt die, who wouldnt suffer 70 years of the western boot on their face? The peoples of the global south on whose insecurity the first and second worlds’ security was founded on
And call me selfish, but i’d prefer nuclear annihilation of human civilisation to the slow extermination of most of the biosphere we seem.headed towards tbqh
America has great power in selling a narrative and polluting minds. Hollywood and its bullshit has been a really powerful asset for the Americans.
For sure Hollywood has played a huge role.
What pacifism he was pretty rabid when random hungarian workers had to be put down
He shoulda sent the tanks into poland and romania too
Especially romania, bastards supported israel
Anyway i are talking here about primarily his taking the nukes away from Cuba, and secondarily about his peaceful coexistence bullshit
Yeah that was a bad decision
You mean the CIA-funded nazis?
No, i don’t mean the “CIA funded nazis” of the Hungarian Freedom Fighters Inc., funded in 1958 by people who left the country so by definition couldn’t be cracked down on by Khruschev but nice try, got anymore of them twitter screenshots?
LMAO imagine still simping for the nazi uprising in the year 2026. Sending in the tanks was one of the few good things cornboy did, and internal CIA documents - sorry “twitter screenshots” - prove it. Next up you’ll tell me China is genociding Uyghurs
Nah i wont
Good doggy