• azimir@lemmy.ml
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    2 days ago

    Having moved from the US to the EU recently (but having visited for 25+ years). Yes, the food is better in the EU.

    The US food is over processed sugar infused sawdust unless you work hard to get specialized and direct from small farms sources.

    Here in the EU I walk to any corner store or street vendor and it’s consistently amazing.

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      Horse shit. Unless your actual complaint is you have to drive to get there.

      The VAST majority of towns have multiple sources of fresh healthy food, in just about every grocery store.

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        Uhhh… As an American who’s spend a huge amount of time abroad as well, I always baffles me how hard it is to eat healthy in the US. The healthy things cost more (fresh local produce, local meat, etc) and the cheapest shit is always the worse for you with ultra processed crap everywhere. Not that you can’t find a plethora of ultra processed elsewhere, it is just more expensive in much of the world.

        The fact that you have to work to eat healthy in the US and spend more to do it, is absolutely a fact.

        And that’s not even getting into the interesting quality of dishes you’ll get in regional difference throughout Europe as well as the rest of the world. Whereas, the US seems to thrive on selling the same food everywhere. Burger, Pizza, Hot Wings, chicken strips, house salad (with tomato, carrots slivers, maybe cucumbers), etc, etc. I swear you go into any random restaurant in the US off a road trip, it’s the same food and you have to work hard to find something interesting like steak tartare, or freshly made pasta, or a real greek salad without lettuce (like the Greeks do!), or impala steaks, or even a decent duck confit.

        Even saying this is making me enjoy the fact I don’t have to fight with avoiding a Kroger, Walmart, and even now the Whole Paycheck, to find a local chain and be horrified that even they are selling Chiquita Bananas and Hass Avacados. I do miss my local ethic shops for their flair, but I’d rather have my cafe Paella and a amazing glass of house wine that isn’t totally $50.

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          /r/IamveryCulinary shit.

          None of this has a basis in reality. You walk in, there are giant sections of veggies, cheap, some local, some of it season because strawberries don’t grow in February. It’ll be right next to the literally hundreds of pounds of local unprocessed meat.

          Y’all have intervened fantasies about the food supply here.

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            It has a basis in reality, as I have physical visited 40+ countries in the world and lived in some crazy remote places. I’ve walked markets in 6 of the 7 continents of the world, and Antarctic doesn’t have supermarket on the Ross side, just the station stores. And that’s just what I’ve seen over 25 years of traveling for work and pleasure. I have my biases, as we all do, but I’m happy to admit how that changes my perspective. The US is the only northern hemisphere country other than Mexico itself that has a chance at being good Mexican, but it’s still not the same as street food in DF or even Veracruz. That’s one of the many biases, I’ll absolutely admit.

            You are an ignorant biased prick who clearly just wants to troll. I’d be happy to talk journals and other “hard data” but as is apparent in your other comments you don’t have an open mind enough to admit you are ignorant, biased, and likely worse. Good luck on your sarcastic journey through life.

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          Did I say all? No most…

          But now that we’re part reading comprehension, I can point out that food deserts exist in Europe as well. Both in the rich counties and those pesky Eastern ones you like to block out of your head.

          https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36360732/

          https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0143622823003156

          https://www.slowfood.com/blog-and-news/how-food-injustice-impacts-lives-in-europe/

          Y’all notice the lack of truly hard data. Turns out the yuros just ain’t monitoring and it’s highly likely through correlation to be very underreported.

          Don’t even get me started on Asia.

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            Oh my god the fucking fragility and whataboutism.

            No one ever said other countries don’t have food desert problems. They absolutely do.

            Your original comment is just disingenuous when there are millions of people suffering because of the in the US, and millions more elsewhere as well.

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              Do you not know what most means? If I said billionaires owned most of the wealth would you be screeching over is usage?

              What about 85%+ and my usage of most do you most specifically take issue with?

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            Y’all notice the lack of truly hard data

            First of all, speak English, this isn’t Bumfuckcousinfuckernowhereville.

            Secondly, oh no “hard data” on European food deserts? Because we really don’t have them like the US. Even if our cities tried planning as shit as yours, around a completely car centric culture, they really can’t because the routes and buildings that have existed for centuries just don’t allow for that. And that’s saying if we even had someone doing that. We don’t.

            Compare public transport and social security in EU vs US.

            Stark contrast.

            Compare design philosophy of cities.

            Stark contrast.

            Compare to American food regulation.

            Stark contrast.

            I know you never want to admit that the US is worse in anything, but now you’re just genuinely being ridiculous.

            In the US you sometimes literally can’t walk out of a neighbourhood, because anything surrounding it is private land and there’s no curb to walk on. So get driven over or shot by some angry land owner. And that wasn’t me making that up, word for word for Americans said in a thread not long ago.

            I can walk through any fucking field or woods I feel like, no matter who owns it.

            Oh akd also everyone’s not strapped so even if they did get mad, my chances of getting shot are way smaller.

            The US is a garbage country and the sooner you accept it the sooner we can fix it.

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              All right I have to push back here, y’all is a perfectly good word. We don’t have a good second person plural in English. It serves a very good purpose.

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                No, you lack a second person singular, but that’s just because thou refuses to employ it, not because it doesn’t exist.

                English personal pronouns

                The second-person singular pronouns are thou, thee, thy, thine, thyself.

                Personally I’d prefer using the already existing 2nd person singular instead of starting to use “y’all” for a second person plural, but my opinion doesn’t really matter here, so you know, fuck me and you do you.

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                  Buddy what on Earth are you talking about? You is the second person singular, its also 2nd person plural hence my comment. You all, or y’all, on the other hand is strictly 2nd person plural.

                  • Dasus@lemmy.world
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                    You is used as a second person singular in modern Southern-American English (ie Bumfuckcousinfuckernowhereville), but “thou” is the existing and non-used second person singular.

                    Why would you even ask about this when it’s so fucking easy to Google it?

                    The word thou (/ðaʊ/) is a second-person singular pronoun in English. It is now largely archaic, having been replaced in most contexts by the word you, although it remains in use in parts of Northern England and in Scots (/ðu:/ dhoo). Thou is the nominative form; the oblique/objective form is thee (functioning as both accusative and dative); the possessive is thy (adjective) or thine (as an adjective before a vowel or as a possessive pronoun); and the reflexive is thyself.

                    Note that it doesn’t say “completely unused or archaic”. No. It’s largely archaic, and mostly replaced by the second person plural “you”. MOSTLY.

                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thou

                    You seem to not know English well so I’ll just note that “mostly” means a different thing than “completely.” And “remains in use” means it’s still used.

                    In the 18th century, Samuel Johnson, in A Grammar of the English Tongue, wrote: “in the language of ceremony … the second person plural is used for the second person singular”,

                    He didn’t write “the second person singular is used for the second person plural”, but the other way.

                    Thou are just dead wrong, which is very easy to check, but thou will never admit to it.