• jjpamsterdam@feddit.org
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    2 days ago

    Still, even the safest US states would rank among the most dangerous EU countries in terms of gun violence and gun related homicides.

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      I don’t dispute that (I’d even wager that the safer state is worse than the most dangerous eu country) but it’s not like it’s commonplace to get killed by a stranger. You’re more likely to die during travel unless you’re specifically traveling to dangerous neighborhoods

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        2 days ago

        That’s true. I used to travel to Saint Louis quite regularly for work about ten years ago. It always seemed fine, at least on the surface.

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          Hilariously one of the more statistically dangerous cities in the country lol

          I lived in Chicago for over 20 years and while I did see someone ditch a stolen car and escape the stereotypically-fat cops by jumping on a train, I never even heard gunfire.

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            I know. It still feels odd to me as a Dutchman though to know that there’s dozens of gun related crimes going on all the time.

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              A big portion of them are gang violence, meaning it’s targeted and not something you’d ever see. Like Mexico has an even bigger gang violence problem, but plenty of people travel there all the time.

              Also, some of those gun crime numbers are “guy got arrested for drugs and had a gun on him”, not necessarily gun violence.

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              I don’t love it either but you and I are probably have a similar chance of dying to gun violence even if the statistics say I’m 200% more likely to