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    I saw the headline and wondered if this was a repost. Nope. If I had a nickel for every time this guy has been arrested for ocean hamster wheel shenanigans, I’d have two nickels. Which isn’t much, but it’s weird that it happened twice.

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        I don’t think he actually expects to get very far in any of his tries. The attention from his eventual arrest and following news articles are his actual goals. Kinda like that flat earth rocket guy. And they’ll both probably end the same way, dead by hubris.

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      I think you’re in luck, the article says he’s tried 3 similar voyages before, so if it’s his fourth your nickel fortune is going to double!

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        Probably for operating an unregistered watercraft or not having a transponder. The kind of things maritime law requires for stuff like not getting shot be some idiot, not being IDed as a naval mine by the Navy, search & rescue, not hitting other ships, customs and border enforcement, etc, compelling border compliance, etc. There’s a surprising amount of rules for doing stuff in the ocean.

        Edit: apparently the vessel isn’t technically seaworthy, there was a hurricane evacuation notice in the area, and he also threatened to kill himself and claimed to have a bomb. All of these things are usually guaranteed to piss off the government to varying degrees.

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    Officials said he refused to step off the vessel and threatened to kill himself. He also claimed that he had a bomb on board, according to court papers.

    Oh so he’s not a cool weirdo, he’s a terrible weirdo. Damn.

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            It’s surely sturdy, but it also looks like a death trap in a storm. But mostly it looks like he never came up with a solution to his drifting-backwards-faster-than-he-can-paddle-forwards problem that plagued his previous attempts. It’s got so much sail area and so little control surface that even a little wind will blow him around.

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          He should come to the UK and then cross from England to France. That would actually be a reasonable crossing and he’d probably be allowed to do it provided he got prior permission, but the Atlantic, nah.

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      I don’t understand it either… He’s obviously nuts, but that’s his life and he should be able to choose to do what he wishes to. Doesn’t matter on law. Most of the laws is just jurisdictional bullshit anyway. You don’t need to have laws to know what’s good or bad. Every decent moral ethic human being knows what’s good or bad.

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            It’s a little more complicated then that. He could be a safety hazard for other boats and travel lanes. And then when some boat calls in the contraption as a rescue concern, they have no way of knowing its him until they get to him. It could be some other idiot in a makeshift raft for all they know.

            I guess they could just slap a GPS on the device that way they can warn other boats or ignore rescue calls, but that seems like a lot of work just to placate one dude.

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        Except for humans who are mentally unwell and might cause damage to others or their property which is why detaining mentally unwell people and getting them help before they can hurt themselves is important.

        Would you let a child crawl into a washing machine?

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          I don’t want to be cruel but natural selection has its meaning. We as a society are exaggerating helping and healing some individuals who should rather be alone somewhere where they can live peacefuly or weirdly without depleting our resources. It is already out-of control and will end by the end of our civilization. It’s inevitable.

          Child is a child and should be watched and teached but severely mentally ill individual cannot be integrated. And if someone wants to die on the see, just fucking let him.

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            I think I understand where you’re coming from but I have to say I think you’re totally wrong and dangerously so.

            First things first, we’re talking about human life and death and thus should treat things carefully because the results are, well deadly and irreversible.

            Now, to get right to the point, natural selection is about masses and populations >>naturally<< surviving those who did not adapt as well. It’s not about what causes death, but what enables the continual existence of life and that distinction is vital.

            Lastly, for my opinion portion, we as human beings are cognizant of ourselves and of the universe. We are not birds on an island and thus it’s in our nature to be cognizant and to make choices through our consciousness. That’s our natural selection right there.

            Letting someone who is ill harm themselves, instead of helping them live comfortably while we figure out how to “correct or adapt” them to live comfortably is unnatural for us as humans. Many animals and other living creatures seemingly show signs of empathy and team work.

            Sounds to me like your environment might be naturally selecting an unnatural outlook for your life if you’re really cool with letting mentally sick or disordered people hurt themselves.

            We’re a species that thrives off cooperation and team work, don’t forget that friend! Idk if you’ve had family in your life with mental illness but I know it can burn. You. Out. But you gotta remember that we’re complex and amazing creatures that this planet hasn’t ever fuckin seen yet (probably) were capable of beautiful and powerful things if we keep our heads on straight and our engines cooled

    • 𝔼𝕩𝕦𝕤𝕚𝕒@lemmy.world
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      The part where upon being stopped by the Coast Guard - he threatened to kill himself and that he had a bomb. Also his device is not seaworthy and they would be dispatched to find him anyway when he dissapears because that’s what they have to do.

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        I didn’t know you needed to have a seaworthy device to sail on open waters.

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          Hazard to other traffic. If you cant steer, dont have lights, dont have a radio, and dont have a beacon or radar reflector, you’re being a pain in the ass for everyone else on the high seas.

          Just like how a car needs to have a minimum standard of roadworthiness to drive on public roads

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      “He is now facing federal charges of obstruction of a boarding, and violation of a Captain of the Port order.”

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        If you asked me to make up naval-related criminal charges while I was drunk, this is the sort of shit I would come up with.

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      Only if he signs a waiver so that the Coasties don’t have to intervene.

      Kill yourself however you want, just don’t waste our money and time.

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      I would agree…except look at all the resources that were wasted trying to recover survivors from the Oceangate implosion.

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        The world acted like those rich fucks brought their treasure down with them.

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          Everyone’s entitled to a rescue mission should they need it, even if they do put themselves in danger. That’s the agreement, that’s what the coast guard are for. Of course you’ll probably get arrested at the end of it for wasting everyone’s time but you’ll live.

          In fairness to them they didn’t know they were putting themselves in danger they just didn’t do their due diligence, and anyway one of them was a kid.

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    He’s trying to “raise money for the Coast Guard.”

    So does he just hand the check directly to the Guardsman in the Coast Guard vessel when they’re forced to drag his yoga ball wheel out of the ocean for a 4th time?

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        Like with other branches of the armed services, there are charities for vets and their families.

        But if you want to give to the guard more directly, the US government has a program that collects once a year before April 15th. HR Block will happily help you give.

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    I’m not an expert in maritime law, or any law for that matter, but why they had to help him?

    If he wanted to be in danger he succeeded, provided he doesn’t request the coastal guard for assistance he is not hurting anything but himself. Is It because his hamster wheel might have been a hazard to other boats?

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      Article 98 UNCLOS, “Duty to render assistance”:

      1. Every State shall require the master of a ship flying its flag, in so far as he can do so without serious danger to the ship, the crew or the passengers:

      a. to render assistance to any person found at sea in danger of being lost;
      b. to proceed with all possible speed to the rescue of persons in distress, if informed of their need of assistance, in so far as such action may reasonably be expected of him;
      c. after a collision, to render assistance to the other ship, its crew and its passengers and, where possible, to inform the other ship of the name of his own ship, its port of registry and the nearest port at which it will call.

      1. Every coastal State shall promote the establishment, operation and maintenance of an adequate and effective search and rescue service regarding safety on and over the sea and, where circumstances so require, by way of mutual regional arrangements cooperate with neighbouring States for this purpose.
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        Thank you barsoap! So even if there is no assistance request is given if the person is clearly lost or soon to be in need of assistance you need to provide assistance.