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Its going to be kodak and digital photography all over again
Only with more tariffs and protectionism.
Which ultimately won’t matter because China will monopolize third world markets and starve Western makers to irrelevance.
Not a lot of long-term thinkers in power these days.
Why think long term when stonk go up now?
I need inexpensive and I need reliable. Please don’t use “it’s for your safety” to load a vehicle with questionable tech and software and charge me for it like it’s a new house. I could probably afford a new car if they still made one where I can do my own parallel parking and manually crank my windows open or closed.
That’s madness. How would you know you have done something wrong every 8 seconds if you don’t hear a weird beep? You could cross some old lines on the road without knowing, or worse - obey the speed limit on the traffic signs instead of what Google thinks it is.
Last December, the European Commission scrapped a 2035 ban on selling new petrol or diesel cars. Instead, under pressure from Germany and Italy, it let manufacturers keep making cars with up to 10% of their current exhaust emissions past that date – in effect, a way to keep selling combustion engines.
I thought the European Commission just presented the law, but it has to pass through parliament and council to go into effect, which to the best of my knowledge has not happened. So the 2035 ban should still be law.
Make all the Epstein squad (even if they weren’t exactly Epstein associates) go bankrupt. I mean, all the slimy elites in the background. This is MY endgame as well.
Here’s a hot take you won’t find elsewhere: battery-based EVs are not a good solution to our problems - they require extraction of rare earth minerals often in areas with slavery and conflict mining, and strain on the energy grid. A far better solution is green hydrogen fuel cell based EVs and more investment in public transport, but it’s too hard to generate profits from either of those under capitalism, because the infrastructure costs required would be too great to be privately funded and public services are basically non-existent these days.
You are mistaking rare earth minerals for conflict minerals such as cobalt & nickel etc. Neither are required to build an EV battery. LFP & sodium-ion batteries do not require said materials.
Hydrogen vehicles also require a battery and electric motors.
I don’t understand how much different the “strain on the energy grid” will be from an hydrogen car compared to a battery electric one. Both require electricity either to charge or generate and store hydrogen.
In fact for countries with the huge strain on its grid I.e Ukraine, electric cars are more popular as with vehicle to load functionality (V2L) it can be used to power homes and devices under blackouts.
In fact for countries with the huge strain on its grid I.e Ukraine, electric cars are more popular as with vehicle to load functionality (V2L) it can be used to power homes and devices under blackouts.
That is cool as fuck, though, to be fair, I guess you could also use any other kind of vehicle as a generator - but it would need adaptions, so I’ll hand that to you!
You are mistaking rare earth minerals for conflict minerals such as cobalt & nickel etc. Neither are required to build an EV battery. LFP & sodium-ion batteries do not require said materials.
No matter what battery technology you use, it requires an unsustainable amount of extraction if we want to scale it up to the same scale as ICE vehicles.
Hydrogen vehicles also require a battery and electric motors.
Sure, but on a much smaller scale.
I don’t understand how much different the “strain on the energy grid” will be from an hydrogen car compared to a battery electric one. Both require electricity either to charge or generate and store hydrogen.
Because if everyone gets home from work at 5pm and sticks their car on charge suddenly the residential energy grid gets a surge demand of a quadrillion megawatts, and that load is generally going to go through a grid that is not equipped for that level of load, and additionally that means the sources might not always be as renewable/green as we’d like. By contrast, green hydrogen can be generated in the place most optimal for it, at the time most optimal for it, throughout the day, situated close to renewable energy sources, with a dedicated connection to the grid, suitable for the demand
At current rates all the lithium required for battery production in China can be obtained by 2040 just from recycling old batteries with other materials followed closely behind.
Many grid operators have specific off peak pricing to encourage people to use electricity at those hours. You could set your electric car to charge at those hours to reduce the price you have to pay for electricity.
In fact certain energy providers have used the V2L capability built into many electric cars to balance the grid. Which in certain scenarios you could even get paid by your grid operator for your services.
Also gird operators already use dedicated batteries to balance the load from renewables so its not like batteries will not be produced.
Hydrogen vehicles for the same performance will require basically the same electric motors as a battery electric car.
Those sure are a bunch of pretty theories, but I think reality will not be kind to them. You can reject what I’m saying, that’s your prerogative, but remember when you see the consequences of the current approach, you won’t have the excuse that you didn’t know any better.
Wishing you love, solidarity, and all the best <3
A far better solution is green hydrogen fuel cell based EVs
The physics are agaist this, batteries are more efficient than fuel-cells, so fuel-cell EVs would put infact more load on the grid in the end than battery based EVs.
Hydrogen could/can be done greenly but there’s a reason the oil and gas companies push it as the green option of choice when they’re not trying to stop any transition at all: hydrogen keeps them relevant longer - most of it is obtained and transported through their systems. They’d love if we spun our wheels investing in a precarious energy transition into a new tech on the promise that the generation of hydrogen will eventually become green - they can draw that out for years.
Electrific cars are still basically the same thing for auto companies - keeping the car relevant, but there’s value in the comparative mechanical simplicity and the fact that the electric transition has already made significant progress and is hurting oil and gas sales now.
Full agree that public transit would be a significant improvement, especially improvements in coverage area
Hydrogen is not green. It’s a byproduct of the fossil fuel industry. What we need is bicycles and electric trains.
Green hydrogen is green. That’s what the green part of it means. Fossil fuel derived hydrogen is called blue hydrogen.
