counterpoint: corruption. Capitalists have vested interest to NOT get regulated and will thus pay off politicians to act in their best interest not in the best interest of the population.
There has never been a system without corruption. Corrupt people have existed whether in capitalism or without, and have a vested interest in every scenario.
The singular place on earth with the least corruption is Finland, and it is a capitalism.
Sure corruption is not an invention of capitalism, but one of the problems of capitalism is that it promotes and favors corruption. Lobbyists are an easy example of what I mean.
How can corruption be promoted and favored by capitalism when a capitalism is the least corrupt nation on earth and anticapitalist systems have never come close?
Why would I do that? How is lobbying the thing that makes a system more corrupt than examples of other systems attempted like a communist dictatorship or an Anarchy where the guy with the most guns gets to fuck everybody’s wife and daughter?
Capitalism doesn’t require lobbying to be legal in the first place. Capitalism refers to a system of production and distribution of goods with hard requirements of currency, private property, and competition.
there has never been a colonial system without corruption*
pre-colonial societies had ways of being and existing that colonists erased and eliminated. we exist in the broken world colonists created and the main thing preventing us from building a better world is a lack of imagination that a better world is even possible
There have always been chiefs and patriarchies, unnecessary starvation and war. Not having electricity didn’t make the gauls or goths more noble in their savagery, nor even the lakota for all their spiritualism about coexistence with nature.
i’m well aware that indigenous societies aren’t perfect. however refusing to draw wisdom from groups that found things that worked exceptionally well like the Haudenosaunee, Shawnee, and Muscogee is frankly irresponsible and is just a continued process of subjugating knowlege.
the greatest knowledge on offer throughout history has been that a society that allows for a small group to own everything, and a large group to own nothing, will always turn to police states, oppressive subjugation, and the worst things that humanity is capable of
counterpoint: corruption. Capitalists have vested interest to NOT get regulated and will thus pay off politicians to act in their best interest not in the best interest of the population.
There has never been a system without corruption. Corrupt people have existed whether in capitalism or without, and have a vested interest in every scenario.
The singular place on earth with the least corruption is Finland, and it is a capitalism.
Sure corruption is not an invention of capitalism, but one of the problems of capitalism is that it promotes and favors corruption. Lobbyists are an easy example of what I mean.
How can corruption be promoted and favored by capitalism when a capitalism is the least corrupt nation on earth and anticapitalist systems have never come close?
Try and explain how lobbying currently works then, without including corruption
Why would I do that? How is lobbying the thing that makes a system more corrupt than examples of other systems attempted like a communist dictatorship or an Anarchy where the guy with the most guns gets to fuck everybody’s wife and daughter?
Capitalism doesn’t require lobbying to be legal in the first place. Capitalism refers to a system of production and distribution of goods with hard requirements of currency, private property, and competition.
there has never been a colonial system without corruption*
pre-colonial societies had ways of being and existing that colonists erased and eliminated. we exist in the broken world colonists created and the main thing preventing us from building a better world is a lack of imagination that a better world is even possible
There have always been chiefs and patriarchies, unnecessary starvation and war. Not having electricity didn’t make the gauls or goths more noble in their savagery, nor even the lakota for all their spiritualism about coexistence with nature.
i’m well aware that indigenous societies aren’t perfect. however refusing to draw wisdom from groups that found things that worked exceptionally well like the Haudenosaunee, Shawnee, and Muscogee is frankly irresponsible and is just a continued process of subjugating knowlege.
the greatest knowledge on offer throughout history has been that a society that allows for a small group to own everything, and a large group to own nothing, will always turn to police states, oppressive subjugation, and the worst things that humanity is capable of