Normies can be reached and memes help. I’ve already gotten some “maybe we were too auick to judge China” reactions when I point out they execute child molesters.

  • reaper_cushions [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
    13·
    28 days ago

    Das mit der freien Presse ist spätestens seit der causa Hüsseyin Dogru einfach nur ein kompletter Witz. Aber ja, technisch gesehen sind du, ich und Friede Springer absolut gleichberechtigt bezüglich dessen, was wir in unseren Tageszeitungen veröffentlichen.

          • Lowleekun [comrade/them, he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
            9·
            28 days ago

            Well yeah, germany was never really big on free speech, so people just don’t care. The majority supports our “reason of state”, due to decades of streamlined propaganda. Israel critique was fought against way before Oct. 7, that’s just when it became obvious. The sanctions are new because they are an extra judicial way of destroying any person without a way for them to defend themselves.

            • BanMeFromPosting [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
              7·
              28 days ago

              Same in Denmark. Soyvikings post about elections here was a fantastic summation of the danish civic mind. We’ve jailed people for liking facebook posts about Israel getting bombed

      • mathemachristian [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
        7·
        28 days ago

        I don’t know too much about it tbh, but as far as I know the laws are about racism and antisemitism in general. It is then up to the police to interpret what is antisemitic and what isn’t in order to prosecute. And then also up to the judges discretion if it goes to trial. So for example there is no law that explicitly forbids “From the river to the sea” (as far as I(!) know) but if it could get “reasonably” interpreted as antisemitic you’re fair game.

        So you’re at a rally and starting a chant or have a particular slogan as part of your speech, the whole rally could get disbanded and then they figure out the “exact legalities” later. The police are allowed to do mistakes in the name of combating antisemitism, you’re not.

        Again this is from kind of hearing and reading about it, not too knowledgeable about it.

        https://theleftberlin.com/how-germany-tries-to-ban-the-slogan-from-the-river-to-the-sea/

        Diese Mehrdeutigkeit sieht die Richterin nicht. Die Parole [from the river to the sea] könne nur bedeuten, das Existenzrecht Israels zu leugnen, da gefordert werde, einen palästinensischen Staat zu gründen, »für den Israel wegmuss«. Es sei »ganz klar«, dass damit das Massaker der Hamas gebilligt werde und damit Mord, Vergewaltigungen und dass Kinder massakriert wurden. Relevant sei nicht, was die Angeklagte für sich damit meine, sondern was bei unbeteiligten Dritten ankomme. Das Motto der Demo hält die Richterin für vorgeschoben, es sei offensichtlich nur um Palästina gegangen. Deswegen verurteilt sie die Angeklagte.

        https://www.nd-aktuell.de/artikel/1184315.from-the-river-to-the-sea-berliner-gericht-verhaengt-geldstrafe-fuer-umstrittenen-losung.html