Being low skilled matters because they aren’t doctors or nurses, and tend to be fast food workers or uber drivers. Whether they were doctors in their own country is irrelevant, as this is a problem with the mass immigration policy regardless.
They also tend to require more government support than the taxes they contribute since Canada has a highly progressive tax policy. So we had capital shallowing, wages were depressed via diminished wage pressure, and now we have a failing social safety net and failing food bank system.
In April 2022, the federal government announced
changes to the TFWP that would ease hiring caps for low-wage workers, remove hiring
restrictions based on regional unemployment and extend work permits (Employment and
Social Development Canada, 2022). Additional measures were announced later in in 2022,
including a possible 18-month extension for post-graduate workers whose permit did or
would expire between September 2021 and December 2022 (Immigration, Refugees and
Citizenship Canada, 2022).
Calling anyone who disagrees with answering the Tim Horton’s lobbyists calls for cheap labor a racist is how we got here, the neo-liberals have been weaponizing language. So sure the housing shortage is caused by regressive and sprawled zoning laws, high developer taxes, greenbelt, etc, but in the end immigration should be tied to housing completions, and you’re a fool who hates poor Canadians if you disagree.
Being low skilled matters because they aren’t doctors or nurses, and tend to be fast food workers or uber drivers. Whether they were doctors in their own country is irrelevant, as this is a problem with the mass immigration policy regardless.
The problem is also outdated and insular accreditation that reduces the skilled to unskilled roles.
They also tend to require more government support than the taxes they contribute since Canada has a highly progressive tax policy.
Sales and fuel taxes aren’t progressive, and as many are young and childless, they probably require less health care and child services.
In April 2022, the federal government announced changes to the TFWP that would ease hiring caps for low-wage workers, remove hiring restrictions based on regional unemployment and extend work permits (Employment and Social Development Canada, 2022). Additional measures were announced later in in 2022, including a possible 18-month extension for post-graduate workers whose permit did or would expire between September 2021 and December 2022 (Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada, 2022).
Please cite relevant points from this 42-page document.
Calling anyone who disagrees with answering the Tim Horton’s lobbyists calls for cheap labor a racist is how we got here,
Not all of them are racists, but I suspect most are.
the neo-liberals have been weaponizing language. So sure the housing shortage is caused by regressive and sprawled zoning laws, high developer taxes, greenbelt, etc, but in the end immigration should be tied to housing completions, and you’re a fool who hates poor Canadians if you disagree.
Canada is about 9.6 million sq km in size. I think reforming regressive and sprawled zoning laws, high developer taxes, and NIMBY laws would pretty much solve the problem.
I mean I think we agree on a lot, but you’re fine to put the cart before the horse. You’d rather ad hominem attack people as racist rather than acknowledging reality of our current circumstances, while I’d just prefer the poor aren’t continuously ground into dust by bad policy that debases salaries and exacerbates shortages.
Excuse my rudeness, its been rough watching a decade of this.
You’re monomaniacally stuck on blaming immigrants. Every problem in this country you bring back to immigration. Immigrants to blame for unemployment, to blame for housing, to blame for healthcare. Every other thread I’ve interacted with you, same shit.
You correctly blame the neoliberals for fucking us over. You correctly identify conservative zoning policies as a cause. But then you never dare look upstream. Never actually challenge the economic basis that created these problems. You accept that economic basis, and always you still go back to blaming immigrants. This “cart before the horse” analogy is precisely telling of the kind of nativist politics you’re peddling. Ever look downstream, never upstream.
You claim to be speaking for the poor Canadians, but that’s bullshit. You don’t really care, not where it matters. Because in your brain if the bad immigrants go away, then we’ll go to the good old days, right? When poor Canadians supposedly did not have to compete with bad immigrants for scraps. See your problem is the competing part, not the scraps part.
So while you do go some way towards identifying the problem, you just don’t have the courage to name its source. You just fixate on immigrants. So all you do is either carry water for the Maple MAGA or maybe you’re one of them.
Presumably under true competition among employers at least, lower wages lead to lower costs. People pay less for service, but if they want workers to get more money, then maybe increase the minimum wage to Ca$20 (≈US$14)/hr.
Would the average person who complains about immigration be willing to pay, say, an extra 25¢ for a coffee or donut, if it meant the lowest paid worker there got ≥Ca$20 (≈US$14)/hr?
Being low skilled matters because they aren’t doctors or nurses, and tend to be fast food workers or uber drivers. Whether they were doctors in their own country is irrelevant, as this is a problem with the mass immigration policy regardless.
They also tend to require more government support than the taxes they contribute since Canada has a highly progressive tax policy. So we had capital shallowing, wages were depressed via diminished wage pressure, and now we have a failing social safety net and failing food bank system.
https://www.bankofcanada.ca/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/sdp2025-8.pdf
Calling anyone who disagrees with answering the Tim Horton’s lobbyists calls for cheap labor a racist is how we got here, the neo-liberals have been weaponizing language. So sure the housing shortage is caused by regressive and sprawled zoning laws, high developer taxes, greenbelt, etc, but in the end immigration should be tied to housing completions, and you’re a fool who hates poor Canadians if you disagree.
The problem is also outdated and insular accreditation that reduces the skilled to unskilled roles.
Sales and fuel taxes aren’t progressive, and as many are young and childless, they probably require less health care and child services.
and your point is …, ?
Please cite relevant points from this 42-page document.
Not all of them are racists, but I suspect most are.
Canada is about 9.6 million sq km in size. I think reforming regressive and sprawled zoning laws, high developer taxes, and NIMBY laws would pretty much solve the problem.
I mean I think we agree on a lot, but you’re fine to put the cart before the horse. You’d rather ad hominem attack people as racist rather than acknowledging reality of our current circumstances, while I’d just prefer the poor aren’t continuously ground into dust by bad policy that debases salaries and exacerbates shortages.
Excuse my rudeness, its been rough watching a decade of this.
You’re monomaniacally stuck on blaming immigrants. Every problem in this country you bring back to immigration. Immigrants to blame for unemployment, to blame for housing, to blame for healthcare. Every other thread I’ve interacted with you, same shit.
You correctly blame the neoliberals for fucking us over. You correctly identify conservative zoning policies as a cause. But then you never dare look upstream. Never actually challenge the economic basis that created these problems. You accept that economic basis, and always you still go back to blaming immigrants. This “cart before the horse” analogy is precisely telling of the kind of nativist politics you’re peddling. Ever look downstream, never upstream.
You claim to be speaking for the poor Canadians, but that’s bullshit. You don’t really care, not where it matters. Because in your brain if the bad immigrants go away, then we’ll go to the good old days, right? When poor Canadians supposedly did not have to compete with bad immigrants for scraps. See your problem is the competing part, not the scraps part.
So while you do go some way towards identifying the problem, you just don’t have the courage to name its source. You just fixate on immigrants. So all you do is either carry water for the Maple MAGA or maybe you’re one of them.
There may be valid concerns about increased immigration, but they’re often tainted—spoiled even—by the bigots.
To me “Illegal immigration” is a dog whistle for immigration.
If Canada had a “whites-only” immigration policy, I doubt half of those complaining about foreigners working at Tim Hortons would continue to do so.
Housing shortages, IMO, are relatively easily dealt with in the 2nd largest country on the planet.
e.g. FWIW, wp:Manitouwadge doesn’t seem to have a housing problem. e.g. https://www.royallepage.ca/en/on/manitouwadge/properties/
The weather currently looks colder https://weather.gc.ca/en/location/index.html?coords=49.141%2C-85.844 but probably not much worse than what Toronto had last February.
Presumably under true competition among employers at least, lower wages lead to lower costs. People pay less for service, but if they want workers to get more money, then maybe increase the minimum wage to Ca$20 (≈US$14)/hr.
Would the average person who complains about immigration be willing to pay, say, an extra 25¢ for a coffee or donut, if it meant the lowest paid worker there got ≥Ca$20 (≈US$14)/hr?