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    “The site has remained underutilized for years, and today’s action is an important step toward bringing it back into productive use in a way that benefits both the surrounding neighborhood and our city,” Gibson said. “As the district councilor, when this petition comes before the full Council, I do not intend to call it down.”

    Capitalism at its finest. Land not “producing” anything? We can’t have that.

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    LEGEND

    Not saying the shots were super-necessary, but let’s be real, somehow these elect-a-critters forget that their addresses are public-record, and it shows.

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          Yeah, leaving just the note. Maybe smashing a window?

          … but if they had called out just the gun-fire, my earlier reply might have needed such nuance. As it is, they called us out for … doing anything at all? Damaging some property? Boohoo. How the property damage was done is immaterial, besides “guns bad”.

          How dare the constituents infringe upon the state’s monopoly on violence?

          If I personally went over to shoot an Iranian child, would I then have standing to engage with the man who ordered my tax dollars be utilized like-so as an equal? Mind you, AI data-centers, subsidized by my tax dollars, were literally used to plan the deaths of those children.

          Thanks to media fear-mongering, including “why so many GUNS!?” storries, my daughter could easilly feel so terrified as Iranian school-children, and no government officials’ children are entitled to feel any safer. Their parents have the power to stop the threats and killing with a vote. I’mma forgive a citizen for realizing strong words haven’t changed those votes, but some bullets in a wall-or-roof-or-tree-or-whatever might. Didn’t even have to kill or injure anyone? Raytheon may want to sue for missed profits, as their products went un-utilized in this particular “Pro-active Freedom DisseminationTM” but I call it a fucken’ bargain.

          13 bullets don’t cost anywhere near as much as a missile by the way, tens-of-thousands wouldn’t. Sorry, I slipped into “lives=who-cares, but money, what about the money!?” elect-a-critter-speak for a minute.

          “Un-related”: Did you know you can make your own shoulder-fired guided-missile for $97 now? Just putting that out there. The problem is NOT the levelling of the playing-field, its people looking at the side that took non-lethal actions and demanding “wHy vIoLeNcE?!”

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              Am I supposed to recognize your name or something? I don’t see any mod-flair, but even then “look at my name” is a weird flex outside of pay-per-plate donor parties and, say … Epstien Island.

              Oh wait, you think it matters that they only doubled-down on your take, didn’t author it, and you yourself haven’t bothered to clarify your own vague-booking. Sorry kid, the conversation moved on.

              Okay, so I went and changed “you” to “they”, twice. You happy now?

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                Let’s keep it civil. You both make solid points and have differing opinions. Anytime you’ve headed into the second-person in a heated debate, it ceases to be a debate.

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                  For your second point: That’s precisely why I default to addressing counter-arguments to the collective “you”. Can’t expect anyone to digest the arguments if every scathing word anyone might not like is addressed to specific individuals. I won’t pretend to be happier and more content with having to make such arguments than anyone else should be, and if anyone wants to claim a specific piece to take personal offense to, that’s their perogative.

                  I do try to lay out a path away from such outcomes, but the road involving any concessions or self-reflection is narrow and treacherous versus the highways full of land-mines that somehow look more inviting. Apparently the “toll-gate” hands you a beer and a blind-fold with pretty flowers on it or something.

                  /end-rant/pontification: I myself am lost in the woods, and the land-mines are really pretty some days.

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        sorry comrade, I misspoke, I am legitimately surprised that this of all issues ended up with shots being fired, not trying to minimize the importance of this specific issue

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          Not to back-track everything I just said, but the fact its only the crazies and greedy mercenaries firing the bullets is itself almost as bad as all the dead kids resulting from all the inaction on the part of the rest of us.

          I applaud no part of this incident more than I do that NO kids were harmed this time, admitedly that’s basically a USian miracle. Thirteen bullets and no kids taken out? US Military stats over recent decades call that “not even one for thirteen shots?” SLACKING.

          They seriously went from supposedly avoiding civilian cassualties, civilian casualties equals terrorism, to “one dead terrorist, we promise that one was a terrorist bad bad man, is worth a hundred dead civilians”, but you or I are supposed to be upset about bullet-holes in the home of an elected official, and we should feel bad that our country-men are so un-couth.