I used 37% as the max for high earners. The reality could be anywhere from zero to more. Depending on how much you severe your ties and which of the 50 states you resided in, plus the country you work in has a say. Unlike Cuba a US citizen can choose what they want to do. Florida for instance has no state income tax. I thought these points were obvious, but evidently not. Bless your little heart.
The point is you get to decide which of those to do or not to do. You can renounce your citizenship and apply for it in another country. You can move to a state that doesn’t have those tax requirements. And none of those add up to 90% of your wage.
This is not a discussion about where it’s cheapest to work, from a tax perspective. It’s about the fact that the cubans don’t have a choice, while a citizen of the USA or Canada or the EU or UK do have choices. Nobody is holding our families hostage so we will behave.
The notion that these doctors who are a national symbol of pride are somehow slaves is laughable.
Any one of these doctors could defect and they would be endlessly feted in the Western press. Interviews, book deals, speaking tours…
We can see clearly this has not happened because all they can do is repeat this lame talking point about how they don’t keep whatever percentage of their paycheck it is.
“Eureka! Now that I have an Evil Communist Army of slave doctors I will send them to do humanitarian work in other countries! There could not possibly be any flaws with this plan!”
"One driver for doctors participating in these overseas programs is fear. Employed publicly whether at home or abroad, many doctors fear reprisal for refusing to participate in these programs. Sometimes given bonuses, many feel the pay will benefit them and their families while overseas or upon their return, even if marginally. This is often weighed against the possibility of a loss of work and wages, or further reprisal, for refusing to participate.
When overseas, the fear does not dissipate. Many face exile for speaking out about poor pay or conditions. This threat hung over many that participated in the Brazilian exchange, after doctors went to court to sue to be treated as contractors able to earn an entire paycheck and work independently, rather than as employees of the Cuban state. This put them at risk of temporary or permanent exile, with no viable alternative for citizenship or way to connect with their families. This also put any wages they had earned in jeopardy for them and their families. "
Oh boy, I love deconstructing these stupid propaganda pieces. Here we go!
These positions are often sought after
Discredited their whole argument right out of the gate
extremely restrictive agreements
The linked Time article also says that these doctors are paid very well by Cuban standards (a country that has been under financial blockade for over 70 years)
Consequently, in 2019, the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights issued an official communication to the Cuban government requesting information on the working conditions of medical workers stationed abroad. According to the statement, UN special correspondents heard reports of what could amount to forced labor based on indicators recognized by the State Department
What a fucking word salad. Also note how they cite (alone) the US state department, known to be a very reliable source about communist governments LOL
That’s as far as I’m willing to go. All their big, scary claims are very weakly backed up (or contradicted!) as soon as you follow any of the links.
Oh my sweet summer child, only considering the federal income tax
I used 37% as the max for high earners. The reality could be anywhere from zero to more. Depending on how much you severe your ties and which of the 50 states you resided in, plus the country you work in has a say. Unlike Cuba a US citizen can choose what they want to do. Florida for instance has no state income tax. I thought these points were obvious, but evidently not. Bless your little heart.
Yes, state taxes need to be considered.
Also include healthcare expenses because the US doesn’t have socialized medicine (taxes, insurance premiums, and deductibles)
Also include social security deductions and retirement account contributions…
Even before considering the dysfunctional state of housing that’s easily 60-70%
The point is you get to decide which of those to do or not to do. You can renounce your citizenship and apply for it in another country. You can move to a state that doesn’t have those tax requirements. And none of those add up to 90% of your wage.
This is not a discussion about where it’s cheapest to work, from a tax perspective. It’s about the fact that the cubans don’t have a choice, while a citizen of the USA or Canada or the EU or UK do have choices. Nobody is holding our families hostage so we will behave.
The notion that these doctors who are a national symbol of pride are somehow slaves is laughable.
Any one of these doctors could defect and they would be endlessly feted in the Western press. Interviews, book deals, speaking tours…
We can see clearly this has not happened because all they can do is repeat this lame talking point about how they don’t keep whatever percentage of their paycheck it is.
“Eureka! Now that I have an Evil Communist Army of slave doctors I will send them to do humanitarian work in other countries! There could not possibly be any flaws with this plan!”
RTFA or live with your delusions, the choice is yours.
https://hir.harvard.edu/medical-servitude-the-other-side-of-cuban-medical-diplomacy/
"One driver for doctors participating in these overseas programs is fear. Employed publicly whether at home or abroad, many doctors fear reprisal for refusing to participate in these programs. Sometimes given bonuses, many feel the pay will benefit them and their families while overseas or upon their return, even if marginally. This is often weighed against the possibility of a loss of work and wages, or further reprisal, for refusing to participate.
When overseas, the fear does not dissipate. Many face exile for speaking out about poor pay or conditions. This threat hung over many that participated in the Brazilian exchange, after doctors went to court to sue to be treated as contractors able to earn an entire paycheck and work independently, rather than as employees of the Cuban state. This put them at risk of temporary or permanent exile, with no viable alternative for citizenship or way to connect with their families. This also put any wages they had earned in jeopardy for them and their families. "
Oh boy, I love deconstructing these stupid propaganda pieces. Here we go!
Discredited their whole argument right out of the gate
The linked Time article also says that these doctors are paid very well by Cuban standards (a country that has been under financial blockade for over 70 years)
What a fucking word salad. Also note how they cite (alone) the US state department, known to be a very reliable source about communist governments LOL
That’s as far as I’m willing to go. All their big, scary claims are very weakly backed up (or contradicted!) as soon as you follow any of the links.
I just realized you are from lemmy.ml.
Fuck off tankie!!!
Must have run out of arguments. Scurry off back to your echo chamber where you can lick imperial boots in peace