• TheCaconym [any]@hexbear.net
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    1 year ago

    You’ll probably get flak for this but I agree.

    if humans can only progress into space by first kidnapping animals, then they don’t deserve to see the stars.

    Indeed; I’d have happily volunteered instead of a monkey or a cat for such an endeavour for the benefit of our species; and I’m sure I’m not the only one. There’s something far more moral about testing such things with people fully aware of what they’re doing and the risks compared to sentient beings not comprehending what’s happening to them and likely being in a panic all along the way. There should be a word for it, really.

    Oh wait, I think there is: consent

    im-vegan btw

    • Jerbil [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      1 year ago

      im-vegan too, if you couldn’t tell.

      The problem right now is that it’s hard to determine if someone is giving fully informed and willing consent for what might be a suicide mission if there’s any sort of profit incentive. Perhaps some people would be willing to go anyway, but I would wonder if part of their drive is to escape the current state of the planet, which can be changed. I think researchers should be the ones testing their own inventions and medications instead of doing it on animals, but the more likely scenario is that they’ll enlist poor people to do it if they’re no longer allowed to use animals. It’s a lose/lose scenario until that profit motive is gone.

      • Damn morally superior people always mentioning their moral superiority while making a morally superior argument. Let me eat my eggs in peace (I still eat eggs but I promise only from farms that have lots of space for their chickens, I’m almost there comrade)