Back in the day it was a lot harder to move. People obviously did, but your great grandparents are about 80 years older then you. If you are are 40, then they might have been born in a time without planes and cars being pretty rarer. If you wanted to cross an ocean you took an ocean liner and most land travel was done on trains. Even those only became really big in the 1850s in many places in the Western world. Sure people moved, but it was somewhat rarer and a massive decision.
sure, due to people migrating within the ottoman empire, I have one side of my family from central asian migrations, and another from african migrations. this means that there’s high likelyhood of serial migrations up my family tree and lots of diversity.
Yeah, the richest families have stable residence. But the lower classes, it seems to me at least, moved around relatively regularly (not even close to the current situation, of course), mainly due to economic reasons, which obviously weren’t too nice for the average peasant. Over the last 200 years every developed country sooner or later underwent urbanisation, meaning a massive move of the population from the countryside into the cities. In my case, it was my grandparents and great-grandparents who moved to the city where I live now as well…
That’s an angle I haven’t considered. I looked it up, and in my country, then a part of the Habsburg monarchy, the limit on serfs’ movement was abolished in 1785.
I don’t know about that. I’m in my mid 30s my great grandpa died a couple years ago in his 90s. You may be overestimating the length of certain generations.
The average age of mothers throughout history tends to be between 25-30. In your case the average is less then 20. Even back in the day, that was not normal. As in first children and even for the time very young parents.
My great grandpa was 63 years older than I was, you might want to try your math again. That’s an average of 21 years. Anything over 30 is considered a “geriatric pregnancy” so I’m gonna need a source on it being 25 to 30 “throughout history”. The numbers I was able to find indicate that 25-30 is the current average only. That the United States has just now crossed the 25 year mark, with average age be becoming 26.5 just within the last few years.
Back in the day it was a lot harder to move. People obviously did, but your great grandparents are about 80 years older then you. If you are are 40, then they might have been born in a time without planes and cars being pretty rarer. If you wanted to cross an ocean you took an ocean liner and most land travel was done on trains. Even those only became really big in the 1850s in many places in the Western world. Sure people moved, but it was somewhat rarer and a massive decision.
Seriously it is kind of crazy, but in Florenz the richest families using their surename are basically the same as 600years ago.
Also when 1 out of 16 did make a big move, then you still got a quite long history in that place.
Can you explain that one?
sure, due to people migrating within the ottoman empire, I have one side of my family from central asian migrations, and another from african migrations. this means that there’s high likelyhood of serial migrations up my family tree and lots of diversity.
The Ottoman Empire did never control anything in Central Asia. The Turks came to what became the Ottoman Empire over a thousand years ago.
what a coincidence, that’s probably where my ancestors come from
Yeah, the richest families have stable residence. But the lower classes, it seems to me at least, moved around relatively regularly (not even close to the current situation, of course), mainly due to economic reasons, which obviously weren’t too nice for the average peasant. Over the last 200 years every developed country sooner or later underwent urbanisation, meaning a massive move of the population from the countryside into the cities. In my case, it was my grandparents and great-grandparents who moved to the city where I live now as well…
At least in Europe, serfdom did limit movement of the lower class a lot in huge parts of the continent. Not all of it, but a lot.
That’s an angle I haven’t considered. I looked it up, and in my country, then a part of the Habsburg monarchy, the limit on serfs’ movement was abolished in 1785.
I don’t know about that. I’m in my mid 30s my great grandpa died a couple years ago in his 90s. You may be overestimating the length of certain generations.
The average age of mothers throughout history tends to be between 25-30. In your case the average is less then 20. Even back in the day, that was not normal. As in first children and even for the time very young parents.
My great grandpa was 63 years older than I was, you might want to try your math again. That’s an average of 21 years. Anything over 30 is considered a “geriatric pregnancy” so I’m gonna need a source on it being 25 to 30 “throughout history”. The numbers I was able to find indicate that 25-30 is the current average only. That the United States has just now crossed the 25 year mark, with average age be becoming 26.5 just within the last few years.
Source: https://www.openaccessgovernment.org/average-age-of-conception-throughout-human-history/151423/
Also for today it is well above that in many countries: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/period-average-age-of-mothers