can anyone please point me to a single notable public figure who can accurately be described as an “Eco Fascist”?
this meme or a version of it gets posted almost monthly yet I don’t understand what political party or movement or group it is countering. who are all these “eco fascists” and where are they making public statements about humans are a virus and presumably… what? so what if people are like a virus? unless they immediately say, “we must genocide all people to save the environment!” then how am I supposed to know theu are a fascist/anti-human-life not just pro-environment?
where are these mythological tree-hugging bootlickers? because I’ve never seen one or an example of one.
seems like rhetorical nonsense straw man shit honestly.
Eco-fascism is a pipeline from environmentalism to fascism. Like with other fascist pipelines, people that deliberately build it don’t go mask off unless they’re stationed far enough along the pipeline that their audience is fine with it. It is intentionally difficult to tell the difference between someone thoughtlessly repeating ecofascist talking points and someone intentionally spreading those talking points to pull people towards more fascist ideologies.
Relatively far down the pipeline are people like Peter Thiel, who openly talk about human population control, or the executives at Nestlé, whose solution to water shortages is to corner the market. And before you complain that you don’t support them or that they aren’t very ecological - most people defending PewDiePie jokes wouldn’t support Hitler either, and Hitler isn’t very funny either.
Though if I had to peg someone as deliberately building at it while operating not very far down the pipeline, it would be Kim Stanley Robinson. I haven’t read The Ministry for the Future, but in the Mars trilogy corporations terraform Mars at breakneck speed without any lasting negative consequences, the Martians overthrow the corporations that are selfishly bringing millions of people from the global south, and as ecological disaster makes Earth far less habitable, the heroes’ answer is to limit migration far below Mars’ carrying capacity because “they would drown our world without saving theirs” (paraphrasing from memory). In the end, Mars is described as a bougie paradise while people on Earth are described as living in squalor and sleeping under their desks.
All this is couched among positive depictions of eco-sabotage, anti-corporate guerilla warfare, a flourishing gift economy, post-work society, citizens’ assemblies, community self-determination, anarchism, etc.
I don’t think there’s many “notable public figures” matching that description, but there’s certainly people who do. All the “nature is healing, we are the virus” posts around the lockdowns etc…
can anyone please point me to a single notable public figure who can accurately be described as an “Eco Fascist”?
this meme or a version of it gets posted almost monthly yet I don’t understand what political party or movement or group it is countering. who are all these “eco fascists” and where are they making public statements about humans are a virus and presumably… what? so what if people are like a virus? unless they immediately say, “we must genocide all people to save the environment!” then how am I supposed to know theu are a fascist/anti-human-life not just pro-environment?
where are these mythological tree-hugging bootlickers? because I’ve never seen one or an example of one.
seems like rhetorical nonsense straw man shit honestly.
Eco-fascism is a pipeline from environmentalism to fascism. Like with other fascist pipelines, people that deliberately build it don’t go mask off unless they’re stationed far enough along the pipeline that their audience is fine with it. It is intentionally difficult to tell the difference between someone thoughtlessly repeating ecofascist talking points and someone intentionally spreading those talking points to pull people towards more fascist ideologies.
Relatively far down the pipeline are people like Peter Thiel, who openly talk about human population control, or the executives at Nestlé, whose solution to water shortages is to corner the market. And before you complain that you don’t support them or that they aren’t very ecological - most people defending PewDiePie jokes wouldn’t support Hitler either, and Hitler isn’t very funny either.
Though if I had to peg someone as deliberately building at it while operating not very far down the pipeline, it would be Kim Stanley Robinson. I haven’t read The Ministry for the Future, but in the Mars trilogy corporations terraform Mars at breakneck speed without any lasting negative consequences, the Martians overthrow the corporations that are selfishly bringing millions of people from the global south, and as ecological disaster makes Earth far less habitable, the heroes’ answer is to limit migration far below Mars’ carrying capacity because “they would drown our world without saving theirs” (paraphrasing from memory). In the end, Mars is described as a bougie paradise while people on Earth are described as living in squalor and sleeping under their desks.
All this is couched among positive depictions of eco-sabotage, anti-corporate guerilla warfare, a flourishing gift economy, post-work society, citizens’ assemblies, community self-determination, anarchism, etc.
Peter Thiel probably? But I think it’s mostly referring to regular people. I see comments like it all the time.
I don’t think there’s many “notable public figures” matching that description, but there’s certainly people who do. All the “nature is healing, we are the virus” posts around the lockdowns etc…