No I do get that, but we’ve been having zoomed out discussions. Sometimes we do need to remember what these entities are in the daily lives of their people. Especially the USA, our government is salivating at christian theocracy. I do get that as you zoom out it state relations begin to just resemble people, and most are just acting in their best interest.
In the daily lives of the Iranian people this “entity” is the thing standing between them, a mass murder campaign, and imperial rule by a puppet regime installed by nato to dominate the region and exploit its resources for the imperial core. The Iranian government is what the people overwhelmingly support. And I support it too.
Yeah because of the US. Without this war I’m sure its less fun to live under a theocracy. Which support for it shot up the minute that became true. I think thats rather obvious on a survival basis why that is. But, come on, theocracy, we can admit thats not the best. And I can certainly say that under non war circumstances I wouldn’t find myself usually agreeing with a theocratic government. Like I dont think thats outlandish or weird or imperialist to say.
I really have to ask… What are you imagining? Have you traveled anywhere outside the western world at all in your life?
You keep saying theocracy as this scareword mantra, have you actually ever visited anywhere else in the world to understand what places are really like for the average person? Iran is an incredibly normal ass country in most ways.
Ok so travel is expensive I can forgive that… Do you ever like, watch a walk through of cities or places elsewhere in the world? Just uncut everyday walk through a city?
What do you even picture Iran being like? Do you know it snows heavily in Tehran every year? Not relevant perhaps but understanding what seasons a country experiences is somewhat important basic-ass understanding of what living in that country is actually like. Do you know what home ownership rates are? Living standards? Literacy rates? Do you know what literacy rates were BEFORE the theocracy you keep complaining about? How about poverty before and after?
I’m really trying to get a better picture of what’s going on in your head here because I suspect your vibes-based idea of what the world is like does not match up with reality.
Do you ever like, watch a walk through of cities or places elsewhere in the world? Just uncut everyday walk through a city?
There is a Chinese women on YouTube who does this and her videos are very grounding. Walking around Siria or Iran and having a very normal experience; people being generous, being funny, being cool, set against their conditions which are often very difficult.
You might not know these people lived under a “theocracy” based on her direct experience. People are just living their lives, working, watching children, going to school, going to church, playing games, listening to music.
Yes. Precisely what I mean. We should not allow ourselves to make bad analysis over what will improve or destroy the lives of people based on ideological dogma. Do I think there are better systems than a theocratic one? Absolutely. Is it attacking the state at a moment of intensification of imperialism going to do anything to improve anyone’s lives or is it literally siding with the imperialism in an online information war for vibes control?
The answer is the latter, obviously.
The Iranian state is absolutely not perfect but it has presided over drastic improvements of people’s lives and the only alternative is what happened to Libya. I will side with the theocracy when the alternative is imperialism. The primary contradiction comes first, then socialism when the conditions are right.
The war has been ongoing for years; sanctions are simply the modern form of siege warfare.
That’s why I support Iran - not because I like theocracy, but because the only alternative while under attack is surrender. We can either support Iran’s theocracy and all of its many internal contradictions, or we can support Western imperialism. That’s it.
Except it doesn’t, Trump’s actions are only the latest in a long line of US aggression against Iran. The US has been waging a war on Iran since they nationalized their oil. I’m old enough to remember when Bush called them part of the “Axis of Evil”
And when Trump is gone I’ll still support Iran against US aggression, because US imperialism is the highest contradiction.
No I do get that, but we’ve been having zoomed out discussions. Sometimes we do need to remember what these entities are in the daily lives of their people. Especially the USA, our government is salivating at christian theocracy. I do get that as you zoom out it state relations begin to just resemble people, and most are just acting in their best interest.
In the daily lives of the Iranian people this “entity” is the thing standing between them, a mass murder campaign, and imperial rule by a puppet regime installed by nato to dominate the region and exploit its resources for the imperial core. The Iranian government is what the people overwhelmingly support. And I support it too.
Yeah because of the US. Without this war I’m sure its less fun to live under a theocracy. Which support for it shot up the minute that became true. I think thats rather obvious on a survival basis why that is. But, come on, theocracy, we can admit thats not the best. And I can certainly say that under non war circumstances I wouldn’t find myself usually agreeing with a theocratic government. Like I dont think thats outlandish or weird or imperialist to say.
I really have to ask… What are you imagining? Have you traveled anywhere outside the western world at all in your life?
You keep saying theocracy as this scareword mantra, have you actually ever visited anywhere else in the world to understand what places are really like for the average person? Iran is an incredibly normal ass country in most ways.
Ok so travel is expensive I can forgive that… Do you ever like, watch a walk through of cities or places elsewhere in the world? Just uncut everyday walk through a city?
What do you even picture Iran being like? Do you know it snows heavily in Tehran every year? Not relevant perhaps but understanding what seasons a country experiences is somewhat important basic-ass understanding of what living in that country is actually like. Do you know what home ownership rates are? Living standards? Literacy rates? Do you know what literacy rates were BEFORE the theocracy you keep complaining about? How about poverty before and after?
I’m really trying to get a better picture of what’s going on in your head here because I suspect your vibes-based idea of what the world is like does not match up with reality.
There is a Chinese women on YouTube who does this and her videos are very grounding. Walking around Siria or Iran and having a very normal experience; people being generous, being funny, being cool, set against their conditions which are often very difficult.
You might not know these people lived under a “theocracy” based on her direct experience. People are just living their lives, working, watching children, going to school, going to church, playing games, listening to music.
Her channel is here: https://youtube.com/@littlechineseeverywhere
I highly recommend it.
Yes. Precisely what I mean. We should not allow ourselves to make bad analysis over what will improve or destroy the lives of people based on ideological dogma. Do I think there are better systems than a theocratic one? Absolutely. Is it attacking the state at a moment of intensification of imperialism going to do anything to improve anyone’s lives or is it literally siding with the imperialism in an online information war for vibes control?
The answer is the latter, obviously.
The Iranian state is absolutely not perfect but it has presided over drastic improvements of people’s lives and the only alternative is what happened to Libya. I will side with the theocracy when the alternative is imperialism. The primary contradiction comes first, then socialism when the conditions are right.
The war has been ongoing for years; sanctions are simply the modern form of siege warfare.
That’s why I support Iran - not because I like theocracy, but because the only alternative while under attack is surrender. We can either support Iran’s theocracy and all of its many internal contradictions, or we can support Western imperialism. That’s it.
Which comes back to my original comment, which somehow started all this.
Except it doesn’t, Trump’s actions are only the latest in a long line of US aggression against Iran. The US has been waging a war on Iran since they nationalized their oil. I’m old enough to remember when Bush called them part of the “Axis of Evil”
And when Trump is gone I’ll still support Iran against US aggression, because US imperialism is the highest contradiction.