I don’t need to explain why this is huge!

  • WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.todayOP
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    The main argument that vegans can’t survive on just a vegan diet, is now moot. Though with the caveat that this is technologically intensive. Also, vegans could technically survive with certain plants like Chlorella.

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      From my perspective that argument is pretty stupid in the first place and just a smokescreen to object a vegan diet. Those people will either not listen to facts at all or find new reasons to justify an omnivore diet.

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          I agree, but I don’t understand how this contradicts my comment. People who insist that ‘veganism is unnatural because you should supplement B12’ never did the slightest research.

          • B12 is mostly produced by bacteria, mostly living on and around the roots of trees and smaller plants.
          • It is naturally contained in animal products if the animals are free roaming in the nature and eating these roots and the dirt with the bacteria and B12 that sticks to these roots.
          • Animals in the food industry mostly do not have the opportunity to eat wild plants and roots and thus would have a B12 deficiency just like vegan humans.
          • To address this issue the livestock is fed with B12 supplements.
          • Only because of these supplements, industrial animal products contain significant levels of B12.
          • So omnivores add the supplements to their food just like vegans do. It’s just as ‘unnatural’.
          • Furthermore, also many omnivores have a B12 deficiency and would benefit from supplementation.

          There’s absolutely no issue to supplement nutrients as long as it’s a reasonable dose corresponding to your needs.

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            I agree, but I don’t understand how this contradicts my comment.

            Wasn’t trying to prove you wrong. I was trying to say that Vegan + a bit of cheese (b12) is perfectly fine for the “can’t do vegan” people.

            Similarly, people who can’t live without their steak/burger/bacon. Fine. Only have it once a week, or once a month.

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          Thank you for communicating, I appreciate the creative wordplay in your username!

          For all eternity, I believe, we can very well aim towards fueling our metabolisms (popularly referred to as eating) kindly, thus; ethically, and completely vegan.

          While indeed presently beginning wherever, and with whatever we can. All the best! • ♡ ☻ ❂

          • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world
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            5 days ago

            Perfect is the enemy of good.

            Personally we can aim for 100% but we are more likely to influence someone from carnivore -> 90% vegan than carnivore -> 100% vegan.