• InexplicableLunchFiend [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    by the time they are done ‘moving away’ from the USA it will be too late, they’ll be drained dry and made into a tourism spot for Americans. Energy seals the deal, they have none and everyone they tried to get it from got blown up by American wars so America is the only provider left, and this advantage will be pressed. Copper is coming out of the walls to pay for US backed wars, and then the dry husks will be tossed aside and used as tax havens and tourism spots. France is probably the one nation in the entire EU with a chance of partially mitigating this due to nuclear energy, but they would need to triple down on that immediately.

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      Yeah possibly. I don’t disagree that they may fail. My only point is that they clearly see what is happening and are making a sincere attempt to resolve it. They may not be able to under the conditions though.

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      i wanna see them try to blow up china when they start selling solar panels to europeans.

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        they’ll just pull some shit in Taiwan like landing a ton of Patriot systems and a nuke, forcing China to start a war to respond. Then they’ll rope the EU into their sanctions game. They already complain about the “over production” of EV vehicles and Solar Panels.

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          i figure they are already doing that tbh.

          china would quietly sanction them and everyone will wonder why the fuck is the us economy on free fall.

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            The EU is already sanctioning Chinese solar panels and EVs I believe, they say it’s to protect their own renewable sectors but in actuality it’s more about keeping the price of renewable energy high so that oil can be competitive at higher prices.

            I don’t think the US is already doing moves that overt with Taiwan, instead it’s more like sending a senator there in a publicity stunt. Nukes are another level of escalation beyond anything we’ve seen, but I don’t put it past the US. They already are getting them in Japan. They hilariously had a nuke in Japan in a cargo container submerged off the coast of a small unpopulated island, it was there for like a decade I believe. A nuclear weapon just sitting there unattended for years.

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              as you said the eu has no energy, so it’s only a matter of time with the sanctions game. they are already quietly opening up to russian energy again. i think it’s a matter of how they worm their way around us influence, like any of the us vassals.

              as for taiwan, the us recently sent literal billions in weapons and some taiwanese politicians are already openly talking about not turning into an ukraine situation with those, which means there might be significant popular support for that idea. they are constantly provoking. not to mention the “military exercises” they like to do in the region.

              i’m not optimistic about their nukes at all, however with nuclear weapons we sadly don’t have the power of hindsight, but we can see what they do out of desperation in the new war on iran. really brings out the existential dread, so we get the real feeling of a cold war.

              in a way, some of the things you predict will happen in the future are already happening now.

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                as for taiwan, the us recently sent literal billions in weapons and some taiwanese politicians are already openly talking about not turning into an ukraine situation with those, which means there might be significant popular support for that idea. they are constantly provoking. not to mention the “military exercises” they like to do in the region.

                Weapons send to Taiwan are mostly a grift. It goes back to US foreign policy of never fully committing to sending actually useful weapons to Taiwan because of the belief that Taiwan can always “flip” back to the Mainland and hand over said weapons to the PLA. It’s because of this that Chiang Kai-Shek got shitty hand-me-down weapons, but at least he got them for free and those shitty hand-me-down weapons were still better than what the PLA had at the time. Lai is no Chiang. He’s still getting shitty hand-me-down weapon platforms, but now he has to pay a premium.