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    Shanghai local government you would receive 1500 per month as your basic pension.

    Yes, that video talked about that. We’re talking about the provinces, not Shanghai.

    That old Chinese woman who lied about not receiving a pension was from a remote province.

    I didn’t say it wasn’t. I said it was an anecdote.

    Personally, I don’t find it funny.

    get by on 50rmb

    Can you imagine the gap between the city and the village?

    especially with the community help that comes with village life.

    As a child, my parents took me to my grandmother’s village for the summer holidays. It was a collective farm. I observed how the collective farmers lived.

    You could survive without a salary; everyone had their own garden and livestock or poultry. I know what that’s like.

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      Personally, I don’t find it funny.

      Please look up what anecdote/anecdotal evidence means

      You could survive without a salary; everyone had their own garden and livestock or poultry. I know what that’s like.

      And I am from a rural Chinese village so I know even better than you.

      Can you imagine the gap between the city and the village?

      Thoughts of someone who hasn’t studied theory or China. Cities obviously develop faster than rural areas.

      If only you could have seen mine and our neighbouring villages even 15 years ago not to mind 20 30 50 years ago compared to today. You wouldn’t be spreading all of this bullshit about rural people not seeing any benefits

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        Thoughts of someone who hasn’t studied theory or China.

        As someone who doesn’t study theory, I think Chiang Kai-shek built Shanghai according to the Western model, with Western money. How much longer will you continue to build and develop it?

        what anecdote/anecdotal evidence means

        Google translates it as a joke.

        Cities obviously develop faster than rural areas.

        If you’re talking about urbanization, I know. In 1930, peasants made up 80% of the USSR’s population. The same situation was in China. What development are you talking about? If a city is developing, then peasants need to be resettled from the villages to the city so they can become workers.

        A city can’t develop without people.

        But you can’t resettle everyone; some will stay.

        If only you could have seen mine and our neighbouring villages

        Yes, that’s right, that video said that the rich regions are doing well, I didn’t argue with you about that.

        You wouldn’t be spreading all of this bullshit about rural people not seeing any benefits

        If you hadn’t spoken so harshly to me, I probably would have kept quiet, Comrade.

        OK. You’re from Shanghai or thereabouts. Please tell me, how much does a Chinese peasant who came to Shanghai without a residence permit earn per month?

        How much does a janitor in Shanghai, who is a Chinese peasant, earn?

        I’d be happy to believe you, but I once spoke with a resident of St. Petersburg who has no idea how people live beyond the Urals. When it comes to national pride, people try to hide their shortcomings, especially if you’re a staunch Chinese communist. The USSR also hid a lot, even from its own citizens. So your information isn’t objective to me, sorry, Comrade.

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          that video said that the rich regions are doing well,

          I am not from a rich region 🤣

          You’re from Shanghai or thereabouts

          Not at all

          If you hadn’t spoken so harshly to me, I probably would have kept quiet

          And if you hadn’t been spreading bullshit I wouldn’t have felt the need to speak harshly. It would have been best if you had kept quiet instead of speaking nonsense.

          Comrade I think we should leave this here. Maybe we can talk again when you decide to educate yourself before speaking.

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            And if you hadn’t been spreading bullshit I wouldn’t have felt the need to speak harshly.

            The thing is, I’ve heard this from a Chinese person many times on Reddit, and not only from a Chinese person. For some reason, I continue to act like an idiot.

            And I don’t really like it, Comrade, that you sometimes don’t answer questions.

            A janitor’s salary in Shanghai is $80-$100 per month. A Chinese farmer/worker without a residence permit in Shanghai earns $200-$400.

            Please correct me.

            Maybe we can talk again when you decide to educate yourself before speaking.

            As you wish