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It’s a shame, I stumbled across it by accident and experienced déjà vu. as if it were a continuation of our conversation
I couldn’t find the transcript of this video.
I can summarize his views.
Nikolai Platoshkin has an ambivalent view of modern China: while acknowledging its remarkable economic successes, he criticizes the country’s departure from classical Marxism and expresses concerns about Beijing’s overly pragmatic foreign policy toward Russia. The politician’s main theses on China: “Special” socialism: The politician notes that the Chinese Communist Party retains power and state planning, but within the country, hard-line capitalism prevails, with colossal social stratification and private property. Foreign policy pragmatism: The expert warns that Beijing primarily protects its economic interests and fears large-scale Western sanctions, which is why it acts with an eye on the United States and may limit cooperation with Russia. Historical parallels: Platoshkin criticizes some of Deng Xiaoping’s decisions and China’s current course, believing that in terms of social protection and equality, China is inferior to the standards established under Mao Zedong.
I agree with Lenin, of course… )))
Here, I found this especially for you. Just don’t scold me, please, it’s not me speaking.
I found a video of that Russian communist whose book, only in translation, some guy here presented to me as an argument.
Therefore, you should understand this man the same way.
This is Platoshkin, whom Putin recently almost sent to prison because he called for revolution. He miraculously got off with a suspended sentence.
He’s a professor, a graduate of Moscow State University, who worked as a diplomat back in the USSR.
Turn on English subtitles. You’ve never heard such an opinion… from “Eastern Communists”… )))
He is one of the most ardent communists currently existing in Russia.
And if you hadn’t been spreading bullshit I wouldn’t have felt the need to speak harshly.
The thing is, I’ve heard this from a Chinese person many times on Reddit, and not only from a Chinese person. For some reason, I continue to act like an idiot.
And I don’t really like it, Comrade, that you sometimes don’t answer questions.
A janitor’s salary in Shanghai is $80-$100 per month. A Chinese farmer/worker without a residence permit in Shanghai earns $200-$400.
Please correct me.
Maybe we can talk again when you decide to educate yourself before speaking.
As you wish
As for the progress in China, it’s already happening at a breakneck pace. Conditions are improving in China faster than anywhere else in the world.
You know I disagree… )))
What’s wrong with Stalin’s industrialization in the 1930s? Which Mao wanted to replicate with abandon. Don’t you think Mao’s thinking back then, ardently, is similar to mine now? That is, Mao wanted to build the USSR in China.
I think Stalin’s “Great Leap Forward” is much more impressive than the “Great Leap Forward”… I’ll Google it now.
Mao Zedong (September 27, 1954 – April 27, 1959) Liu Shaoqi (April 27, 1959 – October 31, 1968) Dong Biwu (Acting Chairman from October 31, 1968 – January 17, 1975) From 1975 to 1982, the position was abolished, and the functions of head of state were performed by the Standing Committee of the National People’s Congress.
Li Xiannian (June 18, 1983 – April 8, 1988) Yang Shangkun (April 8, 1988 – March 27, 1993) Jiang Zemin (March 27, 1993 – March 15, 2003) Hu Jintao (March 15, 2003 – March 14, 2013) Xi Jinping (March 14, 2013 to present)
In ten years, Stalin transformed a largely agrarian country into a power capable of fighting the EU on equal terms, single-handedly, and ultimately bringing them to their knees.
Comrade, honestly, how can you even compare these two?
“snake Khrushchev”
Yes, he discredited Stalin, to the delight of the West, but he did so for careerist and ambitious reasons. But he was a hardened and devoted Soviet communist. It wasn’t that he wanted the New Economic Policy (NEP)—on the contrary, he abolished the last bastion of private enterprise in the USSR. He abolished Stalin’s artels, a grave mistake when light industry slumped, followed by shortages, and, as a consequence, the trade mafia emerged. Khrushchev should have developed the artels, not stifled them. Khrushchev’s second mistake was becoming hooked on oil, a habit Russia still can’t shake.
But he cared about the people; under him, the process of mass construction of free housing for the proletariat, the so-called “Khrushchev-era buildings,” began.
So what if they made a deal with the western devil?
The main thing is that the soul remains untouched.
The soviets did so too during the NEP
Capitalism is a transitional stage from feudalism to socialism. Russia didn’t have capitalism at that time, just like China didn’t. The New Economic Policy (NEP) was improvised capitalism. It was necessary because the country was on the brink of survival. And it really boosted the economy. But Stalin, at some point, said “Stop!” And he didn’t do it without reason. Industrialization requires a huge amount of resources and labor. The NEP is a bunch of small businessmen. Who will build these factories under the NEP? Who will organize this construction? 80% of the population are peasants, who will certainly remain on the land, will plow the land, and sell their harvest as private farmers. How can they be lured to the city? No one raped the peasants back then; they could easily run away. How can we offer them better conditions than if they remained in the villages? Tens of millions need to be resettled. Don’t forget that industrialization was carried out by peasants with their own hands, as was the case in China.
As for Trotsky being for the NEP and Stalin being against it, the NEP ending early ended up being fortuitous in preparing for World War II. Had World War II not been on the horizon, then perhaps extending it may have been correct, to help develop light industry more.
I’ve described the main points above.
To develop light industry, Stalin organized artels.
Note:
“Under I.V. Stalin, artels (production cooperatives) in the USSR were a vital part of the economy. They produced over 30,000 different products, supplying the market with essential goods—from food to electronics. By 1953, artels produced approximately 40% of all furniture and 35% of knitwear in the country.”
No problem, Comrade! Joseph Vissarionovich has thought of everything!
Products of the artel
During the war
Everyone in the cooperative has equal rights and receives the same salary. The director is elected annually from among the cooperative members, by the cooperative itself.
The team is small, 10 people…
As for “western Marxism
I didn’t know this, I said the phrase on my own.
“stupid materialism,” as you called it
It wasn’t me who named it, Lenin named it… ))))
as it implies this materialism stops at empiricism
Yes, you’re probably right.
Thoughts of someone who hasn’t studied theory or China.
As someone who doesn’t study theory, I think Chiang Kai-shek built Shanghai according to the Western model, with Western money. How much longer will you continue to build and develop it?
what anecdote/anecdotal evidence means
Google translates it as a joke.
Cities obviously develop faster than rural areas.
If you’re talking about urbanization, I know. In 1930, peasants made up 80% of the USSR’s population. The same situation was in China. What development are you talking about? If a city is developing, then peasants need to be resettled from the villages to the city so they can become workers.
A city can’t develop without people.
But you can’t resettle everyone; some will stay.
If only you could have seen mine and our neighbouring villages
Yes, that’s right, that video said that the rich regions are doing well, I didn’t argue with you about that.
You wouldn’t be spreading all of this bullshit about rural people not seeing any benefits
If you hadn’t spoken so harshly to me, I probably would have kept quiet, Comrade.
OK. You’re from Shanghai or thereabouts. Please tell me, how much does a Chinese peasant who came to Shanghai without a residence permit earn per month?
How much does a janitor in Shanghai, who is a Chinese peasant, earn?
I’d be happy to believe you, but I once spoke with a resident of St. Petersburg who has no idea how people live beyond the Urals. When it comes to national pride, people try to hide their shortcomings, especially if you’re a staunch Chinese communist. The USSR also hid a lot, even from its own citizens. So your information isn’t objective to me, sorry, Comrade.
Regarding the question of empiricism, we are in agreement. As I already said, I mistook your identity as an empiricist to be as against dialectical materialism, as that’s how it’s commonly understood.
Here I would like to summarize our discussion.
See:
Doubt within doubt is a key dialectical principle, signifying the transition from simple skepticism to critical self-knowledge, where the instrument of verification itself becomes the object of verification.
Skepticism is the highest form of empiricism.
Dialectics is the highest form of skepticism.
Therefore, it can be said that dialectic is the highest form of empiricism.
This is when the mind does not rest on its laurels, but continues to dismantle dogmas. This process is continuous and does not allow for relaxation.
Russian interpretation
I translated
“Anekdot is a genre of urban folklore: a short, funny, and self-contained story. It usually builds on an unexpected and witty punchline at the very end, poking fun at human foibles, stereotypes, or current events.”
Yes, I misunderstood you.
In fact, YouTube is teeming with these videos about China, but they’re mostly positive.
But I just don’t believe it when everything is good, so I look for the catch.
You can find anything in Russia. St. Petersburg and Moscow are just a showcase; go beyond the Urals and you’ll feel sad. It’s a region with incredible natural gas deposits, and some megacities rely on wood fires for heating.
I’m not even talking about the villages there.
I met a Chinese guy on Reddit, but he lives in the US. His father fled Mao’s Cultural Revolution at the time. He probably has relatives in China and knows about it.
But at least he believes at least some of my jokes. I’ve been communicating with him for a year and a half now.
Shanghai local government you would receive 1500 per month as your basic pension.
Yes, that video talked about that. We’re talking about the provinces, not Shanghai.
That old Chinese woman who lied about not receiving a pension was from a remote province.
I didn’t say it wasn’t. I said it was an anecdote.
Personally, I don’t find it funny.
get by on 50rmb
Can you imagine the gap between the city and the village?
especially with the community help that comes with village life.
As a child, my parents took me to my grandmother’s village for the summer holidays. It was a collective farm. I observed how the collective farmers lived.
You could survive without a salary; everyone had their own garden and livestock or poultry. I know what that’s like.
I show you YouTube, you show me the Chinese newspaper Pravda. It seems to me that the information is equivalent… )))
Seriously, please don’t take me for an idiot who peddles fake news.
I didn’t ask you, Comrade, to point out my sources. I showed you a video where a Russian guy studying and living in Harbin talks about how the Chinese pension system works, as explained to him by his Chinese university professor. And I asked you to tell me whether it’s true or not.
Regarding you talking about workers and their rights, no, you were not. You were talking about your perception of workers and their rights, which stands in stark contrast to hard data. This is why I said you rely on vibes and anecdote, which goes against empiricism and dialectical materialism. You fall into idealism when you mistake your individual experience as conclusive for the whole.
I understand you, Comrade, you consider me a subjective idealist.
)))
“Intelligent idealism is closer to intelligent materialism than stupid materialism.”
V.I. Lenin.
Call me a “Russian fatalist” instead, that would be more correct… )))
I’m not going to talk about the workers; I have my own opinion on the matter, and idealism has nothing to do with it.
I see how irritating it is for everyone here, and I don’t want to seem toxic.
““true” socialism, implying that all non-soviet socialism is “false” socialism.”
You’re so hung up on that word, Comrade… Can’t I express myself figuratively?.. )))
OK, not true socialism, but the most perfect model of socialism at the present time, which, to my deepest regret, is now considered subjective idealism to reproduce… But that’s putting it mildly, Comrade!
“Whoever doesn’t regret the collapse of the USSR has no heart. And whoever wants to restore it to its former form has no brain.”
V.V. Putin
“As for why the people of China have different social safety nets from the Soviet Union, these each have their own historical roots. China’s social surplus largely goes towards advancing the productive forces, alleviating the urban/rural development gap, and building mass transit and infrastructure for use by the people.”
How much longer, Comrade? They’ve been building this for 50 years, since the days of Nixon and Kissinger.
I’m reading our Chinese comrade right now, and he’s writing… literally: you can live in a Chinese village on 50 yuan a month… I read this, and I don’t know whether to laugh or cry!
"For all of the soviet union’s incredible results, China has managed to develop even more quickly and thus transfer that into real material gains for 1.4 billion people. "
So what if China developed with Western money? And the USSR developed in the 1930s, with God’s help… let’s say.
Comparisons are unfair, I think.
Besides, have you heard about the Kissinger Triangle? All that money was used to pull China away from the USSR.
Did you know that Deng was invited to the Langley Command Center? Few people were invited there. Together with the US, China built stations on its border with the USSR to monitor Soviet military installations.
By the way, did you see Deng fly to the US in 1979? He was greeted like Gorbachev; it made me smile.
of historical nihilism that set in with Khrushchev onward.
Khrushchev was the first leader of the USSR to visit the United States.
Who do you think is in the photo?.. ))) It’s Rockefeller.
Don’t you think Khrushchev wanted to pull off the same thing as Deng Xiaoping? After he betrayed Stalin, who was deeply disliked and feared in the West.
But Khrushchev wouldn’t have succeeded a priori. The US would never have allowed the US to develop! Never!!!
Do you know why?
Because socialism in the USSR was idealistically subjective!! If the West dreams of such socialism at night, it wakes up in a cold sweat and screams in fear! Until now!!!
China is indeed advancing beyond the west and transitioning more towards a more socialized economy.
I wish China the very best on its path to development!
The main thing is to stay on track!
As for your repeated belittlement of me as a “western Marxist,” I detest it. I ignored it thus far, but you’ve continued to do so
I sincerely apologize! I didn’t know it would offend you! I’m serious.
But, frankly, I’m very pleased with your reaction.
If a Westerner had told me something like that ten years ago, I wouldn’t have believed them! Especially when it came to Lenin.
" standard Trotskyism"
Yes, but Trotsky was for the NEP, and Stalin was against it. He believed that the NEP was poisoning Soviet society and abolished it. Perhaps, if not for Stalin, the USSR would have gone the way of China.
"This is no way to act towards someone you’ve been calling “comrade.” "
I call all socialists “Comrade.” I was recently removed from Reddit. There, I met some… socialists. We argued for a long time, just like you and me, about the same things. In the end, we agreed not to talk about China and remained Comrades, keeping our opinions.
Marxism-Leninism is seeing a revival, and I fall squarely into that school of thought.
Once again, I’m sorry, I won’t call you that anymore.
I also lost your link to the section on Ukraine. I’ll write it here.
Regarding our conversation at the beginning of spring about what’s happening.
My vision of the situation on the front is coming true so far. We were waiting for the green stuff to appear. It has, but nothing has changed at all. Russia is attacking in the Donetsk and Kharkiv regions, with minimal success, while Ukraine is attacking westward, in the Zaporizhzhia direction, and is also advancing. Russia failed to achieve a strategic initiative during the spring offensive. But the most important thing, as I mentioned earlier, is the strikes deep into Russia, which are becoming more painful with each passing month. I get the impression that Ukraine now has parity in drones. Europe is increasing drone production on its own territory. Ukraine has begun using drones with artificial intelligence. According to local residents, something similar is happening in Energodar now. Drones continue to displace traditional weapons with each passing month; very soon they will no longer be needed. War is becoming much cheaper, which is very beneficial for Ukraine. I haven’t seen Zelenskyy so confident in a long time. All that’s left is to wait for your forecasts by mid-summer.
Hi, Comrade!
I can’t seem to figure out how to use the engine. I can’t find the private messages. I’ll post it here: our Chinese friend from Reddit has registered here. Can we create our own thread here so we can communicate with him?
Thanks!
Yes, I checked, the basic pension is 150-200 yuan.
Damn, I couldn’t find that video, but I swear to you that old Chinese woman said exactly what I told you, and no matter how stupid or smart I am, it doesn’t change anything. That was a real village, and real peasants. I don’t know why she lied back then. I could be wrong, of course.
And I’ll clarify that the minimum pension in Ukraine is 450 yuan, converted. That’s a paltry sum, you can’t live on it.
Sorry for upsetting you so much, better blame it on my stupidity.
Can you turn on subtitles in YouTube’s settings? If so, tell me if this is true or not.
Please forgive me in advance if I’m wrong.
Yes, I agree with you. But that doesn’t change the essence of Ma and the others.
Comrade anecdotes are not worth much
Are you telling me there wasn’t a real Chinese peasant woman there?
If you think I’m feeding you speculation right now, then we should probably stop talking.
You, a woman, don’t receive a pension; in her village, no one receives a pension except for government employees.
"In China, citizens who have not made regular pension contributions for the required period (at least 15 years) do not receive a state old-age pension.
These categories include: Rural residents without insurance: Elderly people in villages who do not participate in the basic pension insurance system for rural residents."
Is this a joke?
So, it turns out that peasants who lived their lives in poverty, who couldn’t afford insurance, are left without a pension in their old age. And they lived in poverty not because they are lazy, but because China has only recently emerged from poverty. These are people who were born under Mao.
I have nothing against the fact that development was difficult in China, just please don’t make fun of me.
No idea, it works for me
Please give me the link again
I’ve been fortunate enough to visit both cities recently, I have some pictures of my last trip to Russia over in my main account somewhere in the post history :). I loved my time in Russia!
I prefer St. Petersburg because it’s a cultural city. Moscow is a crazy city. I don’t feel very comfortable there. Everyone there is always running somewhere, empty-eyed, afraid of being late. I worked there for a year once.
Well, it’s no secret that abortion rights are being limited, such as requiring psychological visits in order to get an abortion, or that violence against women within a couple is often disregarded by police and the first offence often only lands you a relatively small fine. I’m not trying to say this is exclusive to Russia, the rise of the far-right is universal to capitalist countries in Europe and North America, but it is factual that this is happening in Russia as well.
As for abortions, the problem probably isn’t the government’s brutality, but Russia’s demographic crisis. It’s much simpler. There’s only one child per family. You know the risks. Right-wing views have nothing to do with it.
And yes, they recently increased benefits for large families in Russia.
As for the punishment for violence, everything remains the same as in the USSR. If you rape or attempt to rape a girl, if it’s proven, you’re in prison in any case. The punishment for violence is very severe, one of the heaviest sentences in the Russian Criminal Code.
Domestic violence: it’s treated the same way now as it was in the USSR. The state intervenes in the family only in extreme cases. It was the same in the USSR. It’s the same in Ukraine, for both cases.
As for LGBTQ, Russian loved ones transmit to me that in the 2000s there were more openly queer personalities in media, and even when I visited there was propaganda on the streets about traditional families
Yes, but it didn’t start in the 2000s, but with the collapse of the USSR. Such individuals began appearing like mushrooms after rain. Both on the streets and on TV. Some trendy pop artists made no secret of the fact that they were those guys. It was fashionable, you could say, back then. When Europe seemed like a blooming garden.
Then, when the West began to shed its masks and reveal its brutal face, everything began to change. First, they banned that organization among children, then, with the outbreak of the war, they banned it completely. Before that, no one paid attention to these people.
I already told you that mentally the people will not accept this without state propaganda, both in Russia and in Ukraine.
as was the case of the USSR.
Then you will be interested to know that in the USSR there was a prison term for this very thing.
My whole point is that the support to the Russian government in the Ukraine war is simply critical support for the instance
I already understand that you are for Russia, because you have relatives there. I also have relatives in Russia, especially my wife. In St. Petersburg, Moscow, and Crimea.
Yup, that’s what I’m trying to refer to
Read here
https://www.fontanka.ru/2026/05/07/76408145/
I haven’t heard anything about salary increases, except maybe on paper.
I’ve done a cursory enough research of the economic history of the USSR that I believe I can justify how budget deficit can be absolutely wonderful for the economy ;)
This is about Russia
https://www.gazprombank.ru/pro-finance/safety/chto-takoe-deficit-federalnogo-byudzheta/
What about in the USSR?
“My point was actually the opposite. I don’t believe Russia faces a big crisis in the immediate future, I’m asking whether in your experience salaries are actually rising and bettering the purchase power of people!”
I don’t think it has. They’ve raised VAT and utility bills. A friend of mine from Russia recently complained about a high electricity bill. Grocery prices are also going up.
rising and bettering the purchase power of people!
I don’t think it has. They’ve raised VAT and utility bills. A friend of mine from Russia recently complained about a high electricity bill. Grocery prices are also going up.
oligarch /ˈɒlɪɡɑːk/ An oligarch is a very wealthy and powerful individual who uses their vast financial and business resources to directly influence a country’s government and political landscape. The word stems from the Greek term oligarchia, which translates to “rule by the few”.
Yes, I agree with you about the term “oligarch.” I never mentioned Ma’s influence on the state, though; I talked about the workers and how Ma made his billions.
And I don’t know about China, but in the USSR, all party workers were a priori involved in government activities.
I suppose China also has “party meetings” at various levels, where party workers make key decisions by voting. At these meetings, such a distinguished and distinguished figure surely enjoys considerable authority. Or am I mistaken?
They have no power they are not oligarchs. There are no oligarchs in China only a bourgeois element that is shrinking year on year that holds no real power.
Yeah, I’ve heard about that, but right now China is second in terms of billionaires after the US.
Comrade, I also read the newspaper “Pravda” as a child, and everything seemed so good and smooth there, but in reality, things don’t always work out that way.
What can I say about this: I recently watched a video on YouTube where a Russian blogger came to a Chinese village and interviewed local residents, visiting their homes. What can I say: as far as everyday life goes, Russian peasants live a little better, except that Chinese peasants have too many electronics, while Russian city dwellers probably don’t have that much in their homes. ))) Everything seems fine there—they live and work. The blogger also interviewed an elderly woman (about 70 years old). She also had no complaints, except that they only paid pensions to those who worked for a state enterprise or to those who had earned their stripes before the Party. The blogger asked what they should do then? She replied: if they have relatives, they help; if not, they have to work themselves.
I see the decree was passed in 2014… it hasn’t been fully implemented yet. It’s been taking a while.