To the pensions and also the massive modernising of rural villages from unconnected backwards villages with no electricity roads or plumbing to modern villages with electricity roads plumbing WiFi and public transit. Alongside the constant and ongoing targeted poverty alleviation.
Comrade, I also read the newspaper “Pravda” as a child, and everything seemed so good and smooth there, but in reality, things don’t always work out that way.
What can I say about this: I recently watched a video on YouTube where a Russian blogger came to a Chinese village and interviewed local residents, visiting their homes. What can I say: as far as everyday life goes, Russian peasants live a little better, except that Chinese peasants have too many electronics, while Russian city dwellers probably don’t have that much in their homes. ))) Everything seems fine there—they live and work. The blogger also interviewed an elderly woman (about 70 years old). She also had no complaints, except that they only paid pensions to those who worked for a state enterprise or to those who had earned their stripes before the Party. The blogger asked what they should do then? She replied: if they have relatives, they help; if not, they have to work themselves.
I see the decree was passed in 2014… it hasn’t been fully implemented yet. It’s been taking a while.
Are you telling me there wasn’t a real Chinese peasant woman there?
If you think I’m feeding you speculation right now, then we should probably stop talking.
You, a woman, don’t receive a pension; in her village, no one receives a pension except for government employees.
"In China, citizens who have not made regular pension contributions for the required period (at least 15 years) do not receive a state old-age pension.
These categories include:
Rural residents without insurance: Elderly people in villages who do not participate in the basic pension insurance system for rural residents."
Is this a joke?
So, it turns out that peasants who lived their lives in poverty, who couldn’t afford insurance, are left without a pension in their old age. And they lived in poverty not because they are lazy, but because China has only recently emerged from poverty. These are people who were born under Mao.
I have nothing against the fact that development was difficult in China, just please don’t make fun of me.
Yes, I checked, the basic pension is 150-200 yuan.
Damn, I couldn’t find that video, but I swear to you that old Chinese woman said exactly what I told you, and no matter how stupid or smart I am, it doesn’t change anything. That was a real village, and real peasants. I don’t know why she lied back then. I could be wrong, of course.
And I’ll clarify that the minimum pension in Ukraine is 450 yuan, converted. That’s a paltry sum, you can’t live on it.
Sorry for upsetting you so much, better blame it on my stupidity.
Can you turn on subtitles in YouTube’s settings? If so, tell me if this is true or not.
Wrong that’s the national floor that is legally required but each local government adds their own contributions on top of this for example if you fall under the Shanghai local government you would receive 1500 per month as your basic pension.
That was a real village, and real peasants.
I didn’t say it wasn’t. I said it was an anecdote.
Ukraine is 450 yuan, converted. That’s a paltry sum, you can’t live on it.
Good thing cost of living in Chinese rural villages is tiny. In most especially the most rural ones you could likely get by on 50rmb a month especially with the community help that comes with village life.
Shanghai local government you would receive 1500 per month as your basic pension.
Yes, that video talked about that. We’re talking about the provinces, not Shanghai.
That old Chinese woman who lied about not receiving a pension was from a remote province.
I didn’t say it wasn’t. I said it was an anecdote.
Personally, I don’t find it funny.
get by on 50rmb
Can you imagine the gap between the city and the village?
especially with the community help that comes with village life.
As a child, my parents took me to my grandmother’s village for the summer holidays. It was a collective farm. I observed how the collective farmers lived.
You could survive without a salary; everyone had their own garden and livestock or poultry. I know what that’s like.
Please look up what anecdote/anecdotal evidence means
You could survive without a salary; everyone had their own garden and livestock or poultry. I know what that’s like.
And I am from a rural Chinese village so I know even better than you.
Can you imagine the gap between the city and the village?
Thoughts of someone who hasn’t studied theory or China. Cities obviously develop faster than rural areas.
If only you could have seen mine and our neighbouring villages even 15 years ago not to mind 20 30 50 years ago compared to today. You wouldn’t be spreading all of this bullshit about rural people not seeing any benefits
I show you YouTube, you show me the Chinese newspaper Pravda. It seems to me that the information is equivalent… )))
Seriously, please don’t take me for an idiot who peddles fake news.
I didn’t ask you, Comrade, to point out my sources. I showed you a video where a Russian guy studying and living in Harbin talks about how the Chinese pension system works, as explained to him by his Chinese university professor. And I asked you to tell me whether it’s true or not.
Please search what anecdote means before getting offended or assuming what it means
Anecdotal evidence is evidence based on descriptions and reports of individual, personal experiences, or observations, collected in a non-systematic manner.
They do.
To the pensions and also the massive modernising of rural villages from unconnected backwards villages with no electricity roads or plumbing to modern villages with electricity roads plumbing WiFi and public transit. Alongside the constant and ongoing targeted poverty alleviation.
Comrade, I also read the newspaper “Pravda” as a child, and everything seemed so good and smooth there, but in reality, things don’t always work out that way.
What can I say about this: I recently watched a video on YouTube where a Russian blogger came to a Chinese village and interviewed local residents, visiting their homes. What can I say: as far as everyday life goes, Russian peasants live a little better, except that Chinese peasants have too many electronics, while Russian city dwellers probably don’t have that much in their homes. ))) Everything seems fine there—they live and work. The blogger also interviewed an elderly woman (about 70 years old). She also had no complaints, except that they only paid pensions to those who worked for a state enterprise or to those who had earned their stripes before the Party. The blogger asked what they should do then? She replied: if they have relatives, they help; if not, they have to work themselves.
I see the decree was passed in 2014… it hasn’t been fully implemented yet. It’s been taking a while.
Comrade anecdotes are not worth much
Are you telling me there wasn’t a real Chinese peasant woman there?
If you think I’m feeding you speculation right now, then we should probably stop talking.
You, a woman, don’t receive a pension; in her village, no one receives a pension except for government employees.
"In China, citizens who have not made regular pension contributions for the required period (at least 15 years) do not receive a state old-age pension.
These categories include: Rural residents without insurance: Elderly people in villages who do not participate in the basic pension insurance system for rural residents."
Is this a joke?
So, it turns out that peasants who lived their lives in poverty, who couldn’t afford insurance, are left without a pension in their old age. And they lived in poverty not because they are lazy, but because China has only recently emerged from poverty. These are people who were born under Mao.
I have nothing against the fact that development was difficult in China, just please don’t make fun of me.
“Individuals who participate in the pension insurance for urban and rural residents, who have reached the age of 60 and have paid a cumulative contribution for 15 years, and have not received the basic pension protection treatment stipulated by the state, can receive the pension insurance benefits of urban and rural residents on a monthly basis.”
Everyone receives a minimum pension but you cannot take the basic pension on top of other pensions.
Comrade I wish I could say you appear intelligent and sincere but it would be a lie in both cases I am afraid to say.
Yes, I checked, the basic pension is 150-200 yuan.
Damn, I couldn’t find that video, but I swear to you that old Chinese woman said exactly what I told you, and no matter how stupid or smart I am, it doesn’t change anything. That was a real village, and real peasants. I don’t know why she lied back then. I could be wrong, of course.
And I’ll clarify that the minimum pension in Ukraine is 450 yuan, converted. That’s a paltry sum, you can’t live on it.
Sorry for upsetting you so much, better blame it on my stupidity.
Can you turn on subtitles in YouTube’s settings? If so, tell me if this is true or not.
Please forgive me in advance if I’m wrong.
https://youtu.be/qHI0-4_E9I4
Wrong that’s the national floor that is legally required but each local government adds their own contributions on top of this for example if you fall under the Shanghai local government you would receive 1500 per month as your basic pension.
I didn’t say it wasn’t. I said it was an anecdote.
Good thing cost of living in Chinese rural villages is tiny. In most especially the most rural ones you could likely get by on 50rmb a month especially with the community help that comes with village life.
Yes, that video talked about that. We’re talking about the provinces, not Shanghai.
That old Chinese woman who lied about not receiving a pension was from a remote province.
Personally, I don’t find it funny.
Can you imagine the gap between the city and the village?
As a child, my parents took me to my grandmother’s village for the summer holidays. It was a collective farm. I observed how the collective farmers lived.
You could survive without a salary; everyone had their own garden and livestock or poultry. I know what that’s like.
Please look up what anecdote/anecdotal evidence means
And I am from a rural Chinese village so I know even better than you.
Thoughts of someone who hasn’t studied theory or China. Cities obviously develop faster than rural areas.
If only you could have seen mine and our neighbouring villages even 15 years ago not to mind 20 30 50 years ago compared to today. You wouldn’t be spreading all of this bullshit about rural people not seeing any benefits
your source is youtube; think on that.
I show you YouTube, you show me the Chinese newspaper Pravda. It seems to me that the information is equivalent… )))
Seriously, please don’t take me for an idiot who peddles fake news.
I didn’t ask you, Comrade, to point out my sources. I showed you a video where a Russian guy studying and living in Harbin talks about how the Chinese pension system works, as explained to him by his Chinese university professor. And I asked you to tell me whether it’s true or not.
Please search what anecdote means before getting offended or assuming what it means
Anecdotal evidence is evidence based on descriptions and reports of individual, personal experiences, or observations, collected in a non-systematic manner.