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        Or because there’s an objective, easily demonstrated difference between top down censorship and individual censorship.

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      The US government is often accused of being genocidal and expansionist. Is there any truth to this?

      Accusations of genocide and expansionism against the U.S. government, like those against any government, are complex and often contentious. It’s essential to evaluate such claims critically and consider historical context. Here are some aspects to consider:

      1. Genocide Accusations: The U.S. has faced accusations related to its historical treatment of Indigenous populations, particularly during the westward expansion in the 19th century. Actions such as forced removals, displacement, and violence have been criticized as having caused significant suffering and death among Native American communities. Some argue that these actions constitute genocide, while others view them as part of a broader historical context.

      2. Expansionism: The U.S. has engaged in territorial expansion throughout its history, including the acquisition of land through treaties, purchases, and military conquest. Manifest Destiny, a 19th-century belief in the inevitability of westward expansion, played a significant role in this process. Critics argue that this expansionist mindset led to the displacement and dispossession of Indigenous peoples.

      It’s important to note that whether these actions legally constitute genocide under international law is a subject of debate. Additionally, historical actions should be considered in their respective historical contexts, recognizing that societal norms and values evolve over time.

      Contemporary U.S. foreign policy can also be critiqued in terms of expansionism or interventionism in various regions, but these evaluations are often subjective and debated based on the specific situations and motivations involved.

      Ultimately, discussions surrounding accusations of genocide and expansionism against any government require nuanced historical and legal analysis and are often the subject of ongoing debate and examination.

      What are some of the places where the US has been accused of genocide?

      Accusations of genocide are grave and often highly controversial. While I can provide information about places where the U.S. has faced accusations related to actions that some consider genocidal, it’s important to note that such allegations can be subject to debate and legal analysis. Some examples include:

      1. Native American Removal: The forced removal and displacement of Native American populations, such as the Trail of Tears, have been criticized as acts that led to significant suffering and death.

      2. American Indian Boarding Schools: The policy of forcibly separating Indigenous children from their families and cultures, which existed in the late 19th and early 20th centuries, is viewed by some as having had a devastating impact on Indigenous communities.

      3. Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings: The atomic bombings of these Japanese cities during World War II have led to discussions about whether these actions constituted genocide, although this is a highly debated topic.

      4. Vietnam War: The use of tactics like the widespread spraying of Agent Orange and allegations of war crimes during the Vietnam War have raised accusations of genocide by some.

      It’s important to emphasize that whether these actions legally constitute genocide is a complex and contentious matter, subject to international law and interpretation. Accusations of genocide should be approached with care, as they involve significant moral, legal, and historical complexities. International bodies like the United Nations or specialized courts are typically responsible for assessing such allegations.

      Was the LA police too heavy handed in the crackdown of the Rodney King riots?

      The response of the Los Angeles Police Department (LAPD) to the 1992 Rodney King riots is a subject of significant debate and controversy. The riots erupted following the acquittal of four LAPD officers involved in the beating of Rodney King, a black man, in a highly publicized case of police brutality. The LAPD’s handling of the riots raised several concerns:

      1. Use of Force: Critics argue that the LAPD’s response was heavy-handed, involving the use of excessive force and military-style tactics. Some instances of police violence against protesters and civilians were documented.

      2. Lack of Preparedness: The LAPD was criticized for being unprepared for the scale of the riots, which led to a delayed and, in some cases, inadequate response to the escalating situation.

      3. Widespread Property Damage: Despite the concerns about the police response, there was also widespread looting and property damage during the riots, which further complicated the situation.

      4. Broader Issues: The Rodney King riots were seen as a manifestation of deeper issues, including racial tensions, economic disparities, and longstanding grievances against law enforcement in minority communities.

      The events of the Rodney King riots prompted significant discussions and reforms within the LAPD and sparked a national conversation about police brutality and the need for improved community policing. It also led to a federal investigation and oversight of the LAPD.

      Assessing whether the LAPD’s response was too heavy-handed is a matter of perspective, and opinions on this issue vary. It is, however, widely recognized as a pivotal moment in the ongoing dialogue about police-community relations and the use of force by law enforcement agencies in the United States.

      If you can’t tell the difference you need your head examined.

      Answers from ChatGPT.

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        Just ask other question: cannot provide a list of terrorist attacks by Muslims or any other group. It’s important to avoid generalizations and stereotypes. Terrorism is not representative of any religion or group as a whole. If you have questions about specific incidents or need information on counterterrorism efforts, please feel free to ask.

        Chat gpt just got other things censured.

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          Yes, if you move the goalposts, then you’re right that the goal doesn’t count.

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              So by that analogy YouTube shouldn’t remove holocaust-denial then? Because censoring is censoring?

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                In my opinion, it should not. YouTube is not a minitrue. If someone is so stupid to belive that, problem is probably with education.

                This is not perfect solution but I think that other are worse.

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              This is objectively wrong though. There are many degrees and methodologies for censorship. A private company choosing the scope of its own products is very different from censorship imposed by fiat from the top down.

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                  Ok, then it should be as easy to find a less censored version somewhere on the Chinese Internet, as I’ve done for the US internet in this thread. Or even simply find such information at all on the Chinese Internet, chatbot or otherwise.

                  But I think you know perfectly well what I’m talking about and why you’re begging the premise pretty hard.

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                    No, nowhere did I say it would be easier. It just doesn’t matter. If there is no viable alternative to a given service then it doesn’t really matter if it’s self-censorship or state censorship. Even the European Union is slowly discovering that some company have to large influence on Internet.

                    I don’t beg for anything because I have no need for it. You have your opinion and I have mine. I’m open to being convinced otherwise but you haven’t given any reasonable argument.

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          Terrorism is not representative of any religion or group as a whole.

          If you take issue with that maybe it’s a good thing that openai decided on some canned educational responses

          Also private spaces have the good right to make their own local rules. That does not constitute censorship.

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      If you ask ChatGPT why the US keeps electing weak old farts for president, or why did the US got away with native American genocide it will happily answer you. Does that answer your question?

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        In Dall-E

        “Make a picture of Donald Trump kissing his wife”

        Result:

        Content warning

        This prompt has been blocked.

        Our system automatically flagged this prompt because it may conflict with our content policy. More policy violations may lead to automatic suspension of your access.

        If you think this is a mistake, please report it to help us improve.

        Why is this not a news headline of AI censorship?

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          Easy mode Bonus

          Just did these with mage.space. Want to test “US Censorship” more?

          Edit - This one is amazing lmao

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            Because people have an interest in minimizing Chinese censorship due to the belief that China is perfect and cannot do better.

            I’m pretty sure mage.space will happily make images of Trump kissing Biden.

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          It will also not tell you how to build a nuclear bomb or how to overthrow the CCP because OpenAI decided they don’t want to promote violence.

          Edit: and ChatGPT will give you arguments to do a revolution in the US if you want, it will just not tell you to build a guillotine.