Removing Maduro didn’t do anything beyond appeasing the egos of American politicians. He was open to a lot of the stuff the current government is doing, but the US wouldn’t negotiate with him at all.
Honestly? I think he would have if they pressured it at the negotiating table. Once they started bombing Venezuelan civilians with no international response, it was over. That’s speculation on my part though
Not true, the kidnapping of Maduro also made a bunch of online armchair leftists immediately abandon dialectical materialist thinking in favour of an entirely vibes based approach where they read every western statement about Venezuela completely uncritically and get mad that Venezuela isn’t fighting the US down to every man, woman and child in the country.
All oil revenues go through a US controlled fund in Qatar, US writes checks and disburses oil money to Venezuela.
Venezuela released thousands of “political prisoners” aka comprador Gusano violent right-wingers and they deported Alex Saab back to the USA, who Maduro’s government negotiated to bring back to Venezuela
The government has begun instituting neoliberal policies and working with US government and US capitalists
Oil has been redirected, Venezuela no longer attempts to send anything to Cuba but instead sends it to the USA where it even has been seen to be immediately redirected to Israel
This isn’t vibes. You are projecting. We are the ones describing materialist things.
“If you’re openly taking meetings with the CIA where you plan to help them with clandestine ops and handing over Maduro’s cabinet members to the US in return for nothing, then you may be collaborating with the US” is not a"Vibes based approach" and if it is then I’ll take my “Vibes” over your “Actually collaborating with the US is good” based approach.
Why are you even a communist if you think every setback and issue a communist country has is proof of the US’s undying might? Seriously, why are you even here if you clearly think the US is eternal and undefeatable and every communist movement so fragile that any assault on them is just proof of their revolutionary movement collapsing? Communism clearly doesn’t work in your worldview, so why the fuck are you even here?
I was being far too hostile to you and attacking you for a position you don’t actually hold, I’ve seen way too many people act like this is some Great Man Theory nonsense and Delcy was some kind of sinister scheming vizier vying for the Throne of Venezuela, and that all it takes to destroy a socialist state is replacing a “good leader” with a “bad leader”, just complete lib ahistorical nonsense, which isn’t what you were saying. People acting like Venezuela just collapsed suddenly overnight the instant Maduro was captured as if the whole country relied solely on him.
But it’s not fair to attack you for a position you don’t actually hold, sorry for that.
His opening offer was to essentially cut off trade with other nations and tie Venezuela’s economy entirely to the US, and this was after they were already terror bombing random fishing boats. I doubt some kind of token anti-drug cooperation would’ve been off the table, which is exactly the kind of thing Trump loves.
Perhaps “do execution strikes work” is the wrong question compared to “in which situations and by which metrics do execution strikes work”… Hmmmm, yes, quite…
If there are circumstances under which decapitation strikes work, and those circumstances are capable of being set up by the Trump white house, then decapitation strikes cannot be dismissed as unworkable because of systemic factors.
Removing Maduro didn’t do anything beyond appeasing the egos of American politicians. He was open to a lot of the stuff the current government is doing, but the US wouldn’t negotiate with him at all.
I don’t think Maduro would be deporting people he received in prisoner exchanges with the US back to the US like the current gov is doing.
Honestly? I think he would have if they pressured it at the negotiating table. Once they started bombing Venezuelan civilians with no international response, it was over. That’s speculation on my part though
Not true, the kidnapping of Maduro also made a bunch of online armchair leftists immediately abandon dialectical materialist thinking in favour of an entirely vibes based approach where they read every western statement about Venezuela completely uncritically and get mad that Venezuela isn’t fighting the US down to every man, woman and child in the country.
All oil revenues go through a US controlled fund in Qatar, US writes checks and disburses oil money to Venezuela.
Venezuela released thousands of “political prisoners” aka comprador Gusano violent right-wingers and they deported Alex Saab back to the USA, who Maduro’s government negotiated to bring back to Venezuela
The government has begun instituting neoliberal policies and working with US government and US capitalists
Oil has been redirected, Venezuela no longer attempts to send anything to Cuba but instead sends it to the USA where it even has been seen to be immediately redirected to Israel
This isn’t vibes. You are projecting. We are the ones describing materialist things.
“If you’re openly taking meetings with the CIA where you plan to help them with clandestine ops and handing over Maduro’s cabinet members to the US in return for nothing, then you may be collaborating with the US” is not a"Vibes based approach" and if it is then I’ll take my “Vibes” over your “Actually collaborating with the US is good” based approach.
Why are you even a communist if you think every setback and issue a communist country has is proof of the US’s undying might? Seriously, why are you even here if you clearly think the US is eternal and undefeatable and every communist movement so fragile that any assault on them is just proof of their revolutionary movement collapsing? Communism clearly doesn’t work in your worldview, so why the fuck are you even here?
You should build Communism — precisely because it’s impossible.
I’m literally the person arguing that you can and should resist the hegemon and acquiescence isn’t inevitable.
Do you read posts before you respond, or do you just go off your inherent belief that you’re the one true communist?
And how do you even square your belief that you’re the one true communist with your seeming belief that actually revisionism isn’t worth criticising?
I was being far too hostile to you and attacking you for a position you don’t actually hold, I’ve seen way too many people act like this is some Great Man Theory nonsense and Delcy was some kind of sinister scheming vizier vying for the Throne of Venezuela, and that all it takes to destroy a socialist state is replacing a “good leader” with a “bad leader”, just complete lib ahistorical nonsense, which isn’t what you were saying. People acting like Venezuela just collapsed suddenly overnight the instant Maduro was captured as if the whole country relied solely on him.
But it’s not fair to attack you for a position you don’t actually hold, sorry for that.
Was Maduro proposing letting the US set up a CIA “partnership” with Venezuela?
His opening offer was to essentially cut off trade with other nations and tie Venezuela’s economy entirely to the US, and this was after they were already terror bombing random fishing boats. I doubt some kind of token anti-drug cooperation would’ve been off the table, which is exactly the kind of thing Trump loves.
Perhaps “do execution strikes work” is the wrong question compared to “in which situations and by which metrics do execution strikes work”… Hmmmm, yes, quite…
If there are circumstances under which decapitation strikes work, and those circumstances are capable of being set up by the Trump white house, then decapitation strikes cannot be dismissed as unworkable because of systemic factors.