• Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    If Obama hadn’t been on it, he could have ordered the release of the files and declare himself the greatest president ever

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    Reading the guesswork here and the reporting (and lack thereof) on it, there aren’t too many options.

    The material was used as kompromat - IOW, if they prosecute the rich and the rich then spill the beans on everyone else in this despicable circle of money and power. Everyone who took bribes or other compensation, people skimming off the top one way or another, got jobs because of the favor of the rich, and of course sex and drugs I’m sure.

    Everyone shuts up because everyone is guilty.

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    The FBI is chock full of Mormons. Why would they help dismantle a child sexual exploitation ring when the church they grew up in is founded on the exact same principles?

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        My buddy said her friend has a whole bit about Mormons, something like they’re the most connected so you really can’t get anything done unless the Mormons are in on it. Revolution, reform, legislation, organization, all gotta be done with the Mormons.

        I was kinda like ha that’s funny. Then I watched all those Lego videos. I am now Mormon by proxy. Let’s do this shit

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        Yup. Always has been too. It’s also not just the FBI; federal law enforcement is disproportionately populated by members of LDS.

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    Kill the rich, save the poor. Taxation, is not enough for the current era. There must be justice for the crimes committed. Once they are dead, then we can figure out how to run the world without capitalism. Untill then, the elimination of the ultra-rich by any means should be the goal. Everything else is noise.

    In addition: We have the power. The US power grid is fragile. As such if we all turn off our power at the exact same time, we can cripple the grid. On July 4th at 11pm cst exactly, we can all power down our homes. Even if only 50% do it, it will enough. We have the power, and we will stop these monsters by any means necessary!

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      Why are people upvoting this, it makes zero sense. Turning off your home power accomplishes absolutely nothing.

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        To elloborate: If all Americans were to cut thier power at the same exact time (or as close to same time as possible,) the power grid would not be able to handle it. How is it different than a power outage? In an outage powrr fails to route to where power is wanted. Even in these sanarios if too much power is shunted to a spot due to power trying find a spot to go, it pops transformers or other power grid equipment. Now imagine it on a mass scale. A Simi dosent stop just because it ran out of road. Why this would work: In the past there were efforts to turn off the lights at an exact time for eco reasons. Like : “lights off at 10pm to save energy!” they were told that it is OK to do this BUT they had to turn off lights and power GRADUALLY because of the effect I said above. Thus, if we all power off our homes, or all our lights at the same time, we could damage the grid.

        Why did I include this in post? we need a bargaining chip. We need a credible real threat to fight back.

        It’s hard to get people to go outside with a gun. it’s hard to get people to outside and hunt down the ultra rich. It’s even hard for people to protest because they don’t have time to do it because they must survive.

        But it is easy to get everyone to turn off a light. Even the ones who don’t touch grass can turn off a light switch. If they can like a post, they can flip a switch. It’s even easy to get the “non-political” people to go along with this because we can just tell them it’s an eco effort or something.

        Risk factors: If Americans actually do it: it will knock out power for several months. (up side it forces all of us to replace equipment that probobly needed to be) if it succeededs. If the us government and energy companies counter by preping for the sudden stop, the meters will still be running thus giving a physical way to measure how many people are protesting. So even if the “attack” fails, the power companies can see how pissed we are and thus report it to the local government which then reports to federal. So even if it “fails” the fact that we’re willing to try shows how upset we Americans are in a way they cannot ignore. It shows we are looking for ways to take our power back by force.

        But I say if they want us to go back in time why not go even further?

        But what of the innocent that need power to survive? 2 responses: 1. Should of thought about that before becoming a facisit nation. 2. The current regime said “empathy is weakness.” just following the example set by our “great” leaders.

        How are the “kill the rich” statement and this are connected: When there is no power, there are no cameras. Cameras powered by solar can be removed. No cameras means no ability to track crimes. Now we can use techniques that are more overt, like raiding the ultra-riches home. Why not just attack thier homes directly? No power means no cell signal, no way to track people before they get there. Historical context; if we had cameras back in the civil rights movement back country cops and kkk members would had more trouble Lynching people they didn’t like. The reverse is also true. No witnesses, no crime.

        But more importantly: it’s a mutually assured distruction tactic, they can’t rule over something that is destroyed and in chaos. And like I said, we will stop this regime BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY.

        Why the date and time: we need to do this before power companies spend most of the generator budget on Ai centers. right now it mostly serves homes and businesses, if we break the current equipment power companies will have to choose between serving the population or serving the Ai overlords. Power companies hire the most working class of working class to do thier work, so … Might be hard to convince them to serve the Ai overlord over thier families.

        I think this gets it all… If not I will explain further.

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          Yess, let’s collectively cripple our electrical grid for months just before we start hitting what will likely be record high temps in the summer under an administration that has proven to not give a shit about the health or safety of the people.

          On your points re: “what about the innocent that need power to survive?”

          1. Do you think the current government is a fair representation of the will of the people? I can only speculate but the “innocent” as you described them surely didn’t ask to be in a facist nation.
          2. Glad to know you’re just as bad as them

          I’m not even going to acknowledge the rest of your post because this idea is about as good as crashing your car to get attention from your crush. You say it’s mutually assured destruction but I think they’d be more than happy to rule over defunct chaos as that seems to be their end goal anyways.

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        Sure thing. I can explain: copied from another reply: If all Americans were to cut thier power at the same exact time (or as close to same time as possible,) the power grid would not be able to handle it. How is it different than a power outage? In an outage powrr fails to route to where power is wanted. Even in these sanarios if too much power is shunted to a spot due to power trying find a spot to go, it pops transformers or other power grid equipment. Now imagine it on a mass scale. A Simi dosent stop just because it ran out of road. Why this would work: In the past there were efforts to turn off the lights at an exact time for eco reasons. Like : “lights off at 10pm to save energy!” they were told that it is OK to do this BUT they had to turn off lights and power GRADUALLY because of the effect I said above. Thus, if we all power off our homes, or all our lights at the same time, we could damage the grid.

        Why did I include this in post? we need a bargaining chip. We need a credible real threat to fight back.

        It’s hard to get people to go outside with a gun. it’s hard to get people to outside and hunt down the ultra rich. It’s even hard for people to protest because they don’t have time to do it because they must survive.

        But it is easy to get everyone to turn off a light. Even the ones who don’t touch grass can turn off a light switch. If they can like a post, they can flip a switch. It’s even easy to get the “non-political” people to go along with this because we can just tell them it’s an eco effort or something.

        Risk factors: If Americans actually do it: it will knock out power for several months. (up side it forces all of us to replace equipment that probobly needed to be) if it succeededs. If the us government and energy companies counter by preping for the sudden stop, the meters will still be running thus giving a physical way to measure how many people are protesting. So even if the “attack” fails, the power companies can see how pissed we are and thus report it to the local government which then reports to federal. So even if it “fails” the fact that we’re willing to try shows how upset we Americans are in a way they cannot ignore. It shows we are looking for ways to take our power back by force.

        But I say if they want us to go back in time why not go even further?

        But what of the innocent that need power to survive? 2 responses: 1. Should of thought about that before becoming a facisit nation. 2. The current regime said “empathy is weakness.” just following the example set by our “great” leaders.

        How are the “kill the rich” statement and this are connected: When there is no power, there are no cameras. Cameras powered by solar can be removed. No cameras means no ability to track crimes. Now we can use techniques that are more overt, like raiding the ultra-riches home. Why not just attack thier homes directly? No power means no cell signal, no way to track people before they get there. Historical context; if we had cameras back in the civil rights movement back country cops and kkk members would had more trouble Lynching people they didn’t like. The reverse is also true. No witnesses, no crime.

        But more importantly: it’s a mutually assured distruction tactic, they can’t rule over something that is destroyed and in chaos. And like I said, we will stop this regime BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY.

        Why the date and time: we need to do this before power companies spend most of the generator budget on Ai centers. right now it mostly serves homes and businesses, if we break the current equipment power companies will have to choose between serving the population or serving the Ai overlords. Power companies hire the most working class of working class to do thier work, so … Might be hard to convince them to serve the Ai overlord over thier families.

        I think this gets it all… If not I will explain further.

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        I will admit, it’s like talking about two different things but look at my replies to others and it’ll make abit more sense. I’ll try to find a more eloquent way to show how it’s connected.

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      The US power grid is fragile. As such if we all turn off our power at the exact same time, we can cripple the grid. On July 4th at 11pm cst exactly, we can all power down our homes. Even if only 50% do it, it will enough.

      Please explain.

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        Sure thing. If all Americans were to cut thier power at the same exact time (or as close to same time as possible,) the power grid would not be able to handle it. How is it different than a power outage? In an outage powrr fails to route to where power is wanted. Even in these sanarios if too much power is shunted to a spot due to power trying find a spot to go, it pops transformers or other power grid equipment. Now imagine it on a mass scale. A Simi dosent stop just because it ran out of road. Why this would work: In the past there were efforts to turn off the lights at an exact time for eco reasons. Like : “lights off at 10pm to save energy!” they were told that it is OK to do this BUT they had to turn off lights and power GRADUALLY because of the effect I said above. Thus, if we all power off our homes, or all our lights at the same time, we could damage the grid.

        Why did I include this in post? we need a bargaining chip. We need a credible real threat to fight back.

        It’s hard to get people to go outside with a gun. it’s hard to get people to outside and hunt down the ultra rich. It’s even hard for people to protest because they don’t have time to do it because they must survive.

        But it is easy to get everyone to turn off a light. Even the ones who don’t touch grass can turn off a light switch. If they can like a post, they can flip a switch. It’s even easy to get the “non-political” people to go along with this because we can just tell them it’s an eco effort or something.

        Risk factors: If Americans actually do it: it will knock out power for several months. (up side it forces all of us to replace equipment that probobly needed to be) if it succeededs. If the us government and energy companies counter by preping for the sudden stop, the meters will still be running thus giving a physical way to measure how many people are protesting. So even if the “attack” fails, the power companies can see how pissed we are and thus report it to the local government which then reports to federal. So even if it “fails” the fact that we’re willing to try shows how upset we Americans are in a way they cannot ignore. It shows we are looking for ways to take our power back by force.

        But I say if they want us to go back in time why not go even further?

        But what of the innocent that need power to survive? 2 responses: 1. Should of thought about that before becoming a facisit nation. 2. The current regime said “empathy is weakness.” just following the example set by our “great” leaders.

        How are the “kill the rich” statement and this are connected: When there is no power, there are no cameras. Cameras powered by solar can be removed. No cameras means no ability to track crimes. Now we can use techniques that are more overt, like raiding the ultra-riches home. Why not just attack thier homes directly? No power means no cell signal, no way to track people before they get there. Historical context; if we had cameras back in the civil rights movement back country cops and kkk members would had more trouble Lynching people they didn’t like. The reverse is also true. No witnesses, no crime.

        But more importantly: it’s a mutually assured distruction tactic, they can’t rule over something that is destroyed and in chaos. And like I said, we will stop this regime BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY.

        Why the date and time: we need to do this before power companies spend most of the generator budget on Ai centers. right now it mostly serves homes and businesses, if we break the current equipment power companies will have to choose between serving the population or serving the Ai overlords. Power companies hire the most working class of working class to do thier work, so … Might be hard to convince them to serve the Ai overlord over thier families.

        I think this gets it all… If not I will explain further.

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    Very obviously because he was working with the American and Israeli governments. You are ruled by billionaire pedophile cannibals, and you don’t really care enough to do anything about it.

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      No, no, if we just keep talking about the Epstein files they’ll release them in their own for some reason! There’s no need to get violent, that doesn’t solve anything! Ignore the fact that our country was founded through violent revolution, and has a constitution specifically amended to allow another with the understanding that it would be necessary one day!

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      Dude… I live 20 hours away from DC assuming I could afford the gas or my 15 year old car could make it that far, and I only live half way to the other coast. Exactly what the fuck am I supposed to do?

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      Whoah now, get your facts straight. We were told there was a list. We were told it was on a desk ready for review. Then we were told it never existed.

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    Edit: https://me.mashable.com/culture/68056/epstein-files-shocking-2009-footage-shows-jeffreys-butler-trying-to-sell-black-book-of-victims-to-fb

    'Authorities later arrested Rodriguez for failing to surrender the book as evidence. He reportedly described the document as his “insurance policy,” claiming he feared Epstein might make him “disappear.” Eventually, Rodriguez pleaded guilty to obstruction of justice and served 18 months in prison.

    Rodriguez died in 2014 from mesothelioma, a cancer commonly linked to asbestos exposure. His death was ruled natural.’

    So what is the follow up on this, what happened to the butler? That information could get him charged for child porn and locked away and tortured for life by other inmates. Seems like something the FBI would do to protect Israel’s blackmail operation.

    How did this get released? Any articles about it?

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    sell the client & victim

    I guess he didn’t get his “sexual exploitation of children for profit” license from the FBI.