I lived in WI back in 03 when they lowered the bac from .1 to .08. people were pissed, but I don’t recall them drinking any less, just getting arrested slightly more.
Nah, the rest of the Great Lakes states would probably each give Scotland a run. I’m from Michigan and a lot of Yoopers I know could probably out drink a Wisconsinite.
Yeah America has some pockets that just… are not human when it comes to drink. Like i can safely say your avg brit, irsh or scott would, can and does drink 95% of America under the table. But of that last 5%… iv seen things… things even the czechs would claim is unhuman.
It’s not a 1:1 comparison is the thing. A DUI implies you can still get into the car and start it, so it’s like you’re bragging about only doing half the job. You haven’t passed out at the bar and your friends stack empties on your head 15 high. (I’ve seen the Welsh do this at 10am ahead of a WC qualifier that started 10 hours later)
I’ve seen both of y’all get sloppy, UK and WI/MN. The Brits, but especially the Scots, do drink more that you statistically, and are just better at it.
Kentucky hill folk out drink most of the world by quiet a bit. The USA as a whole is kinda shit at drinking. But we have some pockets that i question if they have blood or booze running though em.
And they’re descended from some pockets of Scotland and Ireland that never slowed down.
But for real, there parts of the world that get slooooooooooppy. Drunks stumbling down the street at 9am in major cities type stuff drinking corn hooch in southern African countries. A lot made at home in Eastern Europe, who already ranks high. But they hold theor booze better, too.
Finland has a term specifically for feeling antisocial and not wanting to go out so you can get drunk at home alone - underwear drunk.
At some point, pissing contests lose the nuance or ick or charm of what makes alcohol-fueled cultures like that.
Oh my sweet summer child. Come to Britain. We’ll show you what liver-threatening levels of belligerent drinking looks like. The only nations on earth that might - MIGHT - out-drink us are Russia, and maybe rural Finland.
I’m assuming this is based on sales of alcohol. NH has state run liquor stores (they sell all kinds of alcohol, not just liquor, but are the only stores that can sell things stronger than wine/beer). They have no sales tax, and are generally cheaper than liquor stores in all of the surrounding states.
Vermont, Maine, and Massachusetts residents regularly cross the state line to buy in NH, and NH makes it convenient with stores close to the borders and near highways.
Yeah, and looking at the global stats, the 2019 ones seem equally dubious in some ways, being mostly lower and rounded the same way. But to WI’s consumption, they also have lower taxes relative to IL and MN.
Plenty of places like Eastern Europe, people make their own wine at home. That’s going to skew them, already high, higher in reality.
Just personally, the UK is just fucking professional at drinking. Despite the fact they aren’t even in the top 10 globally. I know that upper-Midwest drinking a touch, but it’s just not the same.
Right. But hey look, these stats are pretty unreliable the more I look into them. I’ve seen plenty that put the UK avg and WI avg close enough to be negligible.
I dunno, man. I’ve seen WI and UK drinking. It’s not a pissing contest worth having online from either side.
Average abv of beer overall in the US vs beer in the UK is roughly similar. 4-5% in the US, and 4.5-4.8% in the UK.
Wisconsinites drink ~34-36 gallons (~128-132 liters) of beer per capita. Per capita consumption in the UK is ~18-20 gallons (~68-75 liters).
Additionally, while the UK has a great pub culture, that means the drinks tend to be spread out over the week, whereas Wisconsin (and really America as a whole) has more of a weekend binge drinking culture. This means that not only do Wisconsinites drink almost double what people from the UK do, but they tend to do so when only drinking 2-3 days per week.
And, if you want to include liquor, Wisconsin still has the UK beat. Pure alcohol consumption per capita is 10.6-10.7 liters per capita in the UK, vs 11.7-13.2 liters per capita in Wisconsin.
The Midwest and Great lakes region isn’t the south. Our beer is worth drinking on several different metrics.
4.5%-7% for common popular beers, and excluding the fancy craft ones that you’re probably having only one or two of that are 10%-15%.
The south has fine liquor, but some states/areas have weird laws around beer that makes it basically tap water with a dream. Their tea will have more effect.
They are cheaper, you can drink more of them without getting plastered, they actually taste well, and it’s much easier on your liver.
It’s more in line how we used to drink beer hundreds of years ago, you drank it throughout the day but didn’t get completely fucked up so you could still be productive.
To each their own, I’m not in the habit of telling people what to enjoy or not. :)
Personally, I haven’t encountered a beer at that strength that tasted palatable. I’d be academically curious if the liver load was more or less with an equivalent amount of alcohol spread over 12 hours or 4 hours. I know above a certain level it can’t process it fast enough and you get your hangover effects, but also that the time spent processing has it’s own load.
I will, however, tease states that have a reputation for beer that’s only about twice the alcohol as you naturally find in fruit juice.
A former colleague of mine who enjoys a glass of wine of an evening was reported to HR as an alcoholic by a Midwest American at her new job in London. It was a US-based company so HR took it seriously and she had to explain herself.
All of us at her previous job were astonished. We’d worked with an alcoholic - he had a bottle of water in his desk drawer that turned out to be vodka, and he got so drunk he passed out and fell off his chair. Miss Prim America had been on a work trip with our friend and was scandalised by her drinking wine with dinner every day. Maybe it was a religious thing?
The UK isn’t even in the top 15 European countries based on liters consumed per capita. You are higher when it comes to alcoholism per capita, but still not in the top ten.
You have a long history of drinking beer because the water wasn’t potable for much of your history. The rest of the world drinks actual spirits because we like getting drunk.
You would handle a night of drinking with Americans as well as you handle an inch of snow on the roads.
Y’all have never encountered Wisconsinites, and it shows.
I lived in WI back in 03 when they lowered the bac from .1 to .08. people were pissed, but I don’t recall them drinking any less, just getting arrested slightly more.
https://x.com/Outkick/status/1579137795741741057
Scotland doesn’t hold a card to sconnies.
Scotland versus all 50 states: Wisconsin carries the team.
Scotland versus 49 states except Wisconsin: I’m not sure how this would turn out but I suspect Scotland would win.
Scotland plus Wisconsin versus the other 49 states: sort of like a professional sports team playing a high school sports team.
Nah, the rest of the Great Lakes states would probably each give Scotland a run. I’m from Michigan and a lot of Yoopers I know could probably out drink a Wisconsinite.
Yeah America has some pockets that just… are not human when it comes to drink. Like i can safely say your avg brit, irsh or scott would, can and does drink 95% of America under the table. But of that last 5%… iv seen things… things even the czechs would claim is unhuman.
Drink Wisconsinably.
If you want a better idea of how Wisconsin drinks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WlwumGkSec
It’s not a 1:1 comparison is the thing. A DUI implies you can still get into the car and start it, so it’s like you’re bragging about only doing half the job. You haven’t passed out at the bar and your friends stack empties on your head 15 high. (I’ve seen the Welsh do this at 10am ahead of a WC qualifier that started 10 hours later)
I’ve seen both of y’all get sloppy, UK and WI/MN. The Brits, but especially the Scots, do drink more that you statistically, and are just better at it.
Kentucky hill folk out drink most of the world by quiet a bit. The USA as a whole is kinda shit at drinking. But we have some pockets that i question if they have blood or booze running though em.
And they’re descended from some pockets of Scotland and Ireland that never slowed down.
But for real, there parts of the world that get slooooooooooppy. Drunks stumbling down the street at 9am in major cities type stuff drinking corn hooch in southern African countries. A lot made at home in Eastern Europe, who already ranks high. But they hold theor booze better, too.
Finland has a term specifically for feeling antisocial and not wanting to go out so you can get drunk at home alone - underwear drunk.
At some point, pissing contests lose the nuance or ick or charm of what makes alcohol-fueled cultures like that.
Slow news day in WI:
“Steven’s Point man arrested for 16th DUI.”
Not much of an exaggeration, sadly.
Is a Wisconsin Driver’s license even valid without at least one DUI on your record?
Oh my sweet summer child. Come to Britain. We’ll show you what liver-threatening levels of belligerent drinking looks like. The only nations on earth that might - MIGHT - out-drink us are Russia, and maybe rural Finland.
They’ll never know the joy and sorrow of spending 16 hours in a Wetherspoons and not being on shift.
Wisconsin’s beer consumption per capita is almost double that of Britain’s.
Montana is highest in the US.
It should be noted that the rubes in both states drink shitty corporate beer for the most part.
The most popular beer in Wisconsin is Spotted Cow from New Glarus Brewing Company.
Spotted cow is also one of the top ten craft brewers by volume in the US. They do not distribute outside of Wisconsin to my knowledge.
Not only do they not distribute outside Wisconsin, they will go after anyone they find selling their beer outside of the state.
That probably has more to do with liquor laws than anything.
Not even close. New Hampshire, apparently, is the top consumption per person.
I’m assuming this is based on sales of alcohol. NH has state run liquor stores (they sell all kinds of alcohol, not just liquor, but are the only stores that can sell things stronger than wine/beer). They have no sales tax, and are generally cheaper than liquor stores in all of the surrounding states.
Vermont, Maine, and Massachusetts residents regularly cross the state line to buy in NH, and NH makes it convenient with stores close to the borders and near highways.
Yeah, and looking at the global stats, the 2019 ones seem equally dubious in some ways, being mostly lower and rounded the same way. But to WI’s consumption, they also have lower taxes relative to IL and MN.
Plenty of places like Eastern Europe, people make their own wine at home. That’s going to skew them, already high, higher in reality.
Just personally, the UK is just fucking professional at drinking. Despite the fact they aren’t even in the top 10 globally. I know that upper-Midwest drinking a touch, but it’s just not the same.
And we drink that beer while we are waiting for our brandy and whisky drinks to show up.
You do know alcohol comes in other forms, right?
Per capita, UK alcohol consumption is actually just slightly ahead of WI. But the UK is also only 22nd globally by rank.
Romania drinks 150% of what WI drinks per capita, and a lot of that is wine and brandy.
Yup
https://lemmy.zip/comment/27114195
Right. But hey look, these stats are pretty unreliable the more I look into them. I’ve seen plenty that put the UK avg and WI avg close enough to be negligible.
I dunno, man. I’ve seen WI and UK drinking. It’s not a pissing contest worth having online from either side.
What percentage is Wisconsin beer?
Ha! Ha ha! HAHAHAHAHA!
Average abv of beer overall in the US vs beer in the UK is roughly similar. 4-5% in the US, and 4.5-4.8% in the UK.
Wisconsinites drink ~34-36 gallons (~128-132 liters) of beer per capita. Per capita consumption in the UK is ~18-20 gallons (~68-75 liters).
Additionally, while the UK has a great pub culture, that means the drinks tend to be spread out over the week, whereas Wisconsin (and really America as a whole) has more of a weekend binge drinking culture. This means that not only do Wisconsinites drink almost double what people from the UK do, but they tend to do so when only drinking 2-3 days per week.
And, if you want to include liquor, Wisconsin still has the UK beat. Pure alcohol consumption per capita is 10.6-10.7 liters per capita in the UK, vs 11.7-13.2 liters per capita in Wisconsin.
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The Midwest and Great lakes region isn’t the south. Our beer is worth drinking on several different metrics.
4.5%-7% for common popular beers, and excluding the fancy craft ones that you’re probably having only one or two of that are 10%-15%.
The south has fine liquor, but some states/areas have weird laws around beer that makes it basically tap water with a dream. Their tea will have more effect.
I’m very for 3% alc beers.
They are cheaper, you can drink more of them without getting plastered, they actually taste well, and it’s much easier on your liver.
It’s more in line how we used to drink beer hundreds of years ago, you drank it throughout the day but didn’t get completely fucked up so you could still be productive.
To each their own, I’m not in the habit of telling people what to enjoy or not. :)
Personally, I haven’t encountered a beer at that strength that tasted palatable. I’d be academically curious if the liver load was more or less with an equivalent amount of alcohol spread over 12 hours or 4 hours. I know above a certain level it can’t process it fast enough and you get your hangover effects, but also that the time spent processing has it’s own load.
I will, however, tease states that have a reputation for beer that’s only about twice the alcohol as you naturally find in fruit juice.
Czechs do pretty well too and they do it on beer. None of the cheating on vodka.
I’ve been to Britian many times, you folks get out drunk by the Germans a couple times a year and by the American Midwest consistently
A former colleague of mine who enjoys a glass of wine of an evening was reported to HR as an alcoholic by a Midwest American at her new job in London. It was a US-based company so HR took it seriously and she had to explain herself.
All of us at her previous job were astonished. We’d worked with an alcoholic - he had a bottle of water in his desk drawer that turned out to be vodka, and he got so drunk he passed out and fell off his chair. Miss Prim America had been on a work trip with our friend and was scandalised by her drinking wine with dinner every day. Maybe it was a religious thing?
The UK isn’t even in the top 15 European countries based on liters consumed per capita. You are higher when it comes to alcoholism per capita, but still not in the top ten.
You have a long history of drinking beer because the water wasn’t potable for much of your history. The rest of the world drinks actual spirits because we like getting drunk.
You would handle a night of drinking with Americans as well as you handle an inch of snow on the roads.
Pretty sure Australia and Poland are up there too based on my experiences.
As a sconie, I came here to say this.