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it’s funny to observe that rhetorical transition into shitlibs occurs much faster with socdems than even libertarians

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    Forgive me for not following, does something about the quote read as “shit-lib” to folks?

    (I’m asking sincerely, tone is hard over the internet but I like trying to understand how different people see things)

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      also bring an end to genocide is nice, how about bring justice in shape of minutemen iii flying at tel aviv with congressional approval.

      i will take full blockade as a concession. but of course little braddie boy doesn’t support bds, so that’s unlikely.

      i’m constantly baffled why rhetorical temperature in usa doesn’t move ever, it’s legal to say we should bomb tel aviv, with our beautiful f-35 and carrier group. but no, it’s uuuuuh aipac bad mkaaay. dems constantly run on “we should bomb iran/china/russia”, which shitlibs just sidestep as a little oopsie, cause they promise them better regulated traffic cones or whatever they think they are getting with dems.

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          those laws, allegedly, have never been tried in court btw, nor is it illegal for individuals to advocate bds. the fact that not a single elected dem does advocate boycots says more about them or their simps than aipac power.

          • Does it? When AIPAC election interference is ostensibly a concern keeping people concerned with re election in check?

            When 90% of the government loves israel and israel consistently applies election pressure to that effect, i’m gonna say that probably has a larger impact on officials continuing to support israel than the agents of the bourgeois just having a magic hive mind where they all agree with and understand the “israel is our unsinkable aircraft carrier” bullshit (which really seems to increasingly be “our unsinkable massive liability”)

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              aipac being a digit of imperial porky arm doesn’t negate the necessity to destroy the porky (impossible), destroy the imperial arm (possible with boycotts, if say even 20% engaged in them), or the digit (it will resurrect as j-street anyway)

              aoc or ilhan omar can’t be killed by aipac with those margins, and their utility otherwise is largely useless anyway.

              • I don’t disagree with you but my position in light of all the Epstein stuff in particular (but not exclusively) is that it’s less an arm-digit arrangement and more a fucked up cancerous Cronenberg esque amalgamation where each and every one of us animate it with our tormented screaming existences

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          do you think more public knows netanyahu name or israel? be fucking real

          genuinely, run two phrases in your head side by side, and tell me which indicts a society and which blames one bad apple. ask yourself why obamdani followed $rtx bernie and done this rhetorical swap?

          • Do you think a public with constant messaging to support Israel “or you’re anti semitic” is more likely to respond positively to a message blaming israel or a message blaming netanyahu

            This is why i have said for 6 years now hexbears don’t know how to do propaganda. You have to not just think about how you’re reacting, what the appropriate reaction is, but also how random people are going to react to it, and unfortunately i’m pretty sure the majority of Americans still buy this “israel is our ally and if you criticize them you’re an anti semite” shit

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              actually public is sick with entity shit, not netanyahu shit, especially democrat public.

              and when they elect yoav gallant or whomever the fuck, and all the democrats will glaze him as new leader for entity, who will you blame? maybe it’s those who have muddled the waters long enough with one bad man theory?

              i am thinking where i want the public to be, not how they possibly react to what i’m saying. and they do as well btw, they want the public to forget this and support our greatest ally in the middle east with some facelift.

              (and btw, if you think advocating bombing tel aviv is unpopular around median voter, you are probably type of public who don’t remember that burning policing precinct was majority popular in 2020)

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    Wonder what the I in AIPAC stands for and why this organization that has been around since the 50’s has a vested interest in electing officials who support its causeyea

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      good news, j-street is basically same, but with some niceties about second bantustans for those unblessed with jewish heritage.