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    well part of living in a dystopia is being severely brainwashed , so it makes sense

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    their distopia is worse than mine. In my distopia i can elect vicarious cruelty against some undetermined enemy of people every 4 years.

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      Two things can both be true, like how a honeybee and a cobra are both venemous. But clearly one is less dangerous than the other.

      It’s gonna be a day when liberals learn what a comparison is. Like I openly criticize China sometimes, yeah. I’m a communist after all and we like writing navel gazey critiques. But I live in fucking America, which does vastly more heinous harm to the world in one week than China does in decades. It’s not a contest. Like most of my criticisms of China deal with their foreign policy. They’re too neutral and they do things like sell guns to both sides of a conflict, like they sell guns to both Pakistan and India, and to both Isntrael and Palestine. But compared to what my country does it’s no comparison. America is vastly more evil than China is or has ever been to the point that any criticism I give of China should honestly be dismissed because I’m a fucking American living in the hell country.

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      Liberals’ thought-terminating cliché for everything.
      Yes, two things can be true, but so can one or the other thing or no things, so you haven’t actually said anything.

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      the goal is not to make lies look true, but to make truth unrecognizable. not to have propaganda prevail over truth, but to render the two indistinguishable.

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      Dude I’ve been to Shanghai and from my pea brained American view it was the cleanest and most well designed city I’ve perhaps ever seen. You just compared tacky American bullshit made of parking lots and misery to a lovely walkable space with nice architecture. Like you can spit on the worship of consumerism on Huaihai road, yeah that’s a problem, but it’s at least an area built for human fucking beings to be able to exist outside.

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        Okay cool well I live in Europe all cities are like this and they’re all fucking shit.

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            Lol what? Your reading comprehension is awful or maybe it was my writing I’m to drunk to go back and read what I said, pretty sure I never said Europe was a country or anything about the roads being full of advertising. All I said is when I looked at the original meme and posted the picture what made them look similar to me was the ubiquity of adverts. Sorry that I share your american grievances.

            Anyways lots of European cities look very similar (basically like Paris) at least the cities I live in and have visited always look like Paris I named Berlin and Vienna you can add Prague to that list as well. I don’t have money to travel so I can’t say what other places look like.

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      That looks far better? Like yeah advertising sucks and I wish it were illegal but that isn’t the only issue with the original image

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      What are you talking about? Not a beautiful area and some are probably ads but built for walkability not cars only no idea what you are trying to say with this. China does have some areas with unnecessarily enlarged highways you could have posted instead.

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        I’m not american, so the design the fact that it was built around cars didn’t stick out to me, what did stick out was the insane amount of advertising and noise trying to sell you 100 versions of the same product. That’s why I don’t think the meme was very good.

        Sorry that we’re not all American. That area was built before cars were a thing otherwise you bet your ass there would be a huge fucking road there. That’s why it’s walkable. Also cities like that were designed specifically to stop revolutions after 1848. Another reason people like pedestrian zones in places like Europe is because you can make a shit ton of money off of real estate if you know the area is going to be designated a pedestrian zone before hand, and because it forces consumers to spend longer walking through commercial zones. In Europe walkability and anti car design usually only happens in fancy urban areas. The minute you live in a more rural area you’re completely fucked if you don’t have a car and public transport usually sucks ass outside of major cities. Or at least that’s the case where I live.

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        The advertising.

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        Advertising is so pervasive that people don’t even notice it anymore it just blends in to the background and people assume that’s what a city is meant to look like, they had no advertising in the DDR and AFAIK still don’t in NK.

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          I mean the single cosmetic ad is a problem and I think ads should be illegal, but all of the other signs are attached to their buildings, rather than being an advertisement. So if you’re talking about those, it is not the same.

          With the exception of the one, maybe.

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            Gotta bleach your skin so you can look white, I’d hate to look like a farmer.