• HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml
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    Middle class is and always was just a third class aristocracy that preside over the stolen labour of the imperial periphery. That includes me and I imagine most Western Lemmy users whether we know that’s what’s happening or not. Maybe not as bad as the real aristocracy but very far from blameless for the exploitation happening in the world. Not wanting to live off the exploitation of others is not an excuse for it actually happening. We’re all culpable.

    I’d even go as far as to say there is no true proletariat in the imperial core because of how pervasively the spoils of exploitation is distributed here. The poorest person here still actively lives off the labour of even poorer people in the periphery.

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      Middle class is and always was just a third-class aristocracy that preside over the stolen labour of the imperial periphery.

      Petite Bourgeois. Professional Managerial Class. Mercantile Class. Yeomen/Freeholder. The Third Estate. There’s a bunch of different names for it, depending on which socio-economic system you operate under.

      We’re all culpable.

      To be culpable, you need a certain level of agency. I’m reluctant to hang blame on a cog in the machine, even if that cog gets a marginally nicer standard of living than their peers. That way lays liberalist self-flagellation, rather than proletarian unity. The House Slave has no more say in the running of the plantation than the Field Slave, even if the clothing is nicer and the living quarters less drafty.

      I’d even go as far as to say there is no true proletariat in the imperial core because of how pervasively the spoils of exploitation is distributed here.

      sound of J. Sakai’s Settlers hitting the desk

      If you’re looking for a “real” proletarian underclass, look no farther than all the prison labor camps our country has perpetuated. You’ve got homeless folks and debtors picked up by the modern day Press Gangs to do piecework for subsistence wages.

      But climb up a rung or two to the modern-day service sector, what’s left of blue collar industry, the vocational trades, and the third-string office jobs. You’re still going to find debt peonage and a carceral state. People showing up to work with ankle monitors because they’re still on probation. People perpetually underwater on the car they need or the college debt they need or the housing note they need to stay out of bankruptcy and homelessness.

      The domestic infrastructure is much nicer. When we need health care, there are doctors in the neighborhood who can provide treatment (which we maybe can afford) and schools that provide some professionalized education (which will maybe result in a sustainable employment) and highways/railways to get us where we need to go, and even parks and theaters and other amusement centers for a degree of recreational relief.

      But any Roman will tell you that walking distance from the Colosseum didn’t make you more or less of a slave. Proletarianization isn’t about whether or not you hate your life. It’s about whether or not you own your labor.

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      The empire either needs to start crumbling or capital needs to start hoarding far more resources to itself rather than throwing its scraps to some workers of the imperial core before revolution is possible. We’re in a position now where both things are becoming feasible, we just need to make sure the ire of the people is pointed appropriately. Unfortunately, I think the imperial workers embracing fascism is just as likely as a socialist revolution, if not more so.

      As much as I would hope most if not all of us socialists would be willing to accept a lower standard of living in exchange for ending imperialism, I don’t think the average USian is ready for the gravy train to end. The next few months are going to be very telling, I think.

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      Yeah once you get woke to the chain of misery and inequity that trails your regular existence in a capitalist democracy you see how we’re like a little echo of the aristocracy. Gotta fix this state of things somehow so we can actually build the real world for everyone