Well dads are usually more negatively perceived than the mothers. My dad beat me as a child (+ other physical abuse(irrelevant)) and is considered by people who I’ve spoken to to be a terrible person unlike my mom (because autism moms are apparently great and definitely not abusive). But I trust him was more than my mother who often manipulated us and treated me in a condescending and derogatory way.
Dads aren’t worse than moms, they are more often physically abusive which can’t be refuted and rationalized by social services and other authorities.
Children have the right to care, security, and a good upbringing. Children shall be treated with respect for their person and individuality and shall not be subjected to corporal punishment or other abusive treatment
is the law of parenting in Sweden
In all matters concerning children, the child’s best interests must be the primary consideration. When assessing the child’s best interests, the child’s views must be taken into account. If a decision or other measure concerns care or treatment for a child, the child’s best interests must be the deciding factor
regarding what social services are bound by law to do
Yes, it’s insane. I know it’s legal to hit your children i other parts of Europe as well, like France. Just not “too much or too hard” because that would be assault…
Sweden abolished corporal punishment in schools 1958 and at home 1979(!)
Yeah, and that system would still favor the emotionally abusive parent over the physically abusive one. Corporal punishment is the one with a name put to it, it’ll be focused on more.
“The child’s best interest” section might name the child in that decision loop, but their opinion will still be weighted as though they’re a child and can’t make an informed decision about their care.
No, that’s not how the law works. There’s a lot of work material before the law is decided that’s used as guidance as well as predecents in courts and other material. All aspects are of equal value no matter how they’re named.
Yeah, it gives the children an opportunity to voice their own opinion and it will be given weight in any decisions made by social services. Their opinion is not just brushed off because they’re a child, it has to be taken into account.
I understand that you better understand how the law works. I’m saying that putting more red tape or better definitions on a thing isn’t going to change that direct, immediate “this can kill you right now” actions are taken more seriously in all cases than “this will fuck up your world view and might become a physical threat to you at some point” ones.
The guy who preferred his physically abusive dad over his emotionally abusive mom is going to end up going with the mom in most cases.
I hear what you are saying and I understand, but my point is the law makes no differences between abuses (in Sweden at least) and our social services exercises their power only as stipulated by the law. Therefore both kinds of abuses are equally treated.
But considering different cases:
a child being subjected to corporal punishment at home will be handled in the same fashion as one being subjected to other abusive treatment
However
a child coming in to the hospital beaten to pulp will probably immediately be separated from their parents, a child seeking mental care would probably not
Which is what you’re thinking of maybe?
Also with this said, child services in Sweden from time to time fucks up and return children to their abusive parents, resulting in their mistreatment and deaths. There has been at least three cases over the last few years which has shocked the population
Well dads are usually more negatively perceived than the mothers. My dad beat me as a child (+ other physical abuse(irrelevant)) and is considered by people who I’ve spoken to to be a terrible person unlike my mom (because autism moms are apparently great and definitely not abusive). But I trust him was more than my mother who often manipulated us and treated me in a condescending and derogatory way.
Dads aren’t worse than moms, they are more often physically abusive which can’t be refuted and rationalized by social services and other authorities.
Physical abuse is emotional abuse
Also yes, but it isn’t the only type of abuse.
Yes, but also emotional manipulation has a much lower likelihood of putting you in the hospital. Not zero, but much lower.
Social services effectively cares about getting kids to adulthood. Physical violence is the bigger obstacle to achieving that goal.
Depends on the country maybe?
Children have the right to care, security, and a good upbringing. Children shall be treated with respect for their person and individuality and shall not be subjected to corporal punishment or other abusive treatment
is the law of parenting in Sweden
In all matters concerning children, the child’s best interests must be the primary consideration. When assessing the child’s best interests, the child’s views must be taken into account. If a decision or other measure concerns care or treatment for a child, the child’s best interests must be the deciding factor
regarding what social services are bound by law to do
Hitting your children is legal in all 50 United States.
https://legallyexplained.com/is-it-legal-to-spank-your-child-in-the-us/
My parents will never face justice for hitting my brothers and I. Abuse is legal and normalized here.
Yes, it’s insane. I know it’s legal to hit your children i other parts of Europe as well, like France. Just not “too much or too hard” because that would be assault…
Sweden abolished corporal punishment in schools 1958 and at home 1979(!)
Yeah, and that system would still favor the emotionally abusive parent over the physically abusive one. Corporal punishment is the one with a name put to it, it’ll be focused on more.
“The child’s best interest” section might name the child in that decision loop, but their opinion will still be weighted as though they’re a child and can’t make an informed decision about their care.
No, that’s not how the law works. There’s a lot of work material before the law is decided that’s used as guidance as well as predecents in courts and other material. All aspects are of equal value no matter how they’re named.
Yeah, it gives the children an opportunity to voice their own opinion and it will be given weight in any decisions made by social services. Their opinion is not just brushed off because they’re a child, it has to be taken into account.
I understand that you better understand how the law works. I’m saying that putting more red tape or better definitions on a thing isn’t going to change that direct, immediate “this can kill you right now” actions are taken more seriously in all cases than “this will fuck up your world view and might become a physical threat to you at some point” ones.
The guy who preferred his physically abusive dad over his emotionally abusive mom is going to end up going with the mom in most cases.
I hear what you are saying and I understand, but my point is the law makes no differences between abuses (in Sweden at least) and our social services exercises their power only as stipulated by the law. Therefore both kinds of abuses are equally treated.
But considering different cases:
However
Which is what you’re thinking of maybe?
Also with this said, child services in Sweden from time to time fucks up and return children to their abusive parents, resulting in their mistreatment and deaths. There has been at least three cases over the last few years which has shocked the population