If 62 Dam’s breaking aren’t a direct consequence of sino and Soviet engineers installing dams to generate hydroelectric power because irresponsible engineers didn’t do the proper math to make functional safe dams and accidentally got 130k to 260k Chinese drowned…
Then how is it a valid argument that nuclear power isn’t safe due to the same mistakes by the engineers who failed to properly safeguard fukishima or Chernobyl or three mile island and accidently killed about 4000 Japanese, Ukrainans and Americans. .
That 4.000 death number is only from liquidators alone aka frontline workers with the most radiation exposure. It doesn’t take into account the excess death rate from people dying of cancer in the long run due to environmental radiation from the disaster where deaths could go into the tens of thousands. Like your numbers are absolute bullshit.
Glad you were able to support your position with a down vote and no citations, what an engaging conversation. Clearly you have the superior moral high ground, and a 12 inch penis /s.
Have you read the paper you are presenting. It has no sourced facts. The only thing it says is based on studies from xyz but it does not list them or cite them. It also states that both the WHO and IAEA are part of a massive transnational conspiracy… Id call this ticktok slop if it was in video form instead of paragraph.
Casualties
270,000-500,000+ affected
. 10,000–12,000 evacuated
. At least 200 people died of radiation sickness,
unknown estimated future death toll from radiation induced illness.
66 diagnosed cases of chronic radiation syndrome
that’s 266+ dead and another 25 to 100 likely from long term exposure and contamination casualties over the next century.
Ha, so nuclear is so bad, we have to compare it to the petrochemical industry, which is the most polluting on earth? That says a lot, but not the way you’d probably like
More like 10k to 50k long term deaths due to effects of radiation exposure like cancer. Cancer rates among those affected by radiation are way higher than you assume.
Want to source that? Chenrobyl is the worst disaster nuclear has had by far and… it basically slightly raised background exposure by a few % if you lived in poland ukraine or russia . The Kyshtym exclusion zone may sound scary but the effective dose of radiation in Ozyorsk isabout 0.1 mSv a year, which is harmless compared to a natural radiation background of about 2 mSv a year. AKA living on granite or marble is worse than living in the exclusion zone.
Enormous amounts of radionuclides entered the air from the burning reactor. Yet the total emission was 200 times less than from all of the 543 nuclear warheads exploded in the atmosphere since 1945. The highest estimated radiation dose exposure to the world population from these explosions was 0.113 mSv recorded in 1963 (UNSCEAR 1988). The radiation doses from Chernobyl dust were estimated and compared with natural doses by UNSCEAR (2000a). During the first year after the accident the average individual dose received by inhabitants of the Northern Hemisphere was estimated by UNSCEAR as 0.045 mSv, i.e., less than 2% of the average global annual natural dose (2.4 mSv per year). During next 70 years the global population will be exposed to a total Chernobyl dose of approximately 0.14 mSv, or 0.08% of the natural lifetime dose of 170 mSv. People living in the most contaminated areas of the former Soviet Union received an average annual whole body radiation doses in 1986 –1995 of 0.9 mSv in Belarus, 0.76 mSv in Russia, and 1.4 mSv in Ukraine (UNSCEAR 2000b). Average doses estimated for the period 1986 – 2005 are 2.4 mSv in Belarus, 1.1 mSv in Russia, and 1.2 mSv in Ukraine (UNSCEAR 2008). All these doses dwarf in comparison with natural radiation doses in some parts of the world which, for example, in Ramsar, Iran reach >400 mSv/year (Mortazawi et al 2006) and in Brazil and southwestern France reach up to more than 700 mSv per year
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Dams braking arent a direct consequence of renewables, but a flaw of the engineering. Also your argument bears no merit against wind and solar.
Your comment is deeply dishonest and bad faith.
Whoosh.
If 62 Dam’s breaking aren’t a direct consequence of sino and Soviet engineers installing dams to generate hydroelectric power because irresponsible engineers didn’t do the proper math to make functional safe dams and accidentally got 130k to 260k Chinese drowned…
Then how is it a valid argument that nuclear power isn’t safe due to the same mistakes by the engineers who failed to properly safeguard fukishima or Chernobyl or three mile island and accidently killed about 4000 Japanese, Ukrainans and Americans. .
That 4.000 death number is only from liquidators alone aka frontline workers with the most radiation exposure. It doesn’t take into account the excess death rate from people dying of cancer in the long run due to environmental radiation from the disaster where deaths could go into the tens of thousands. Like your numbers are absolute bullshit.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deaths_due_to_the_Chernobyl_disaster
provide a source for your claimed excess deaths https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2889503/
holy shit. I did. If you are going to be arguing in bad faith then it’s pointless
Then hopefully you dont ignore this one too https://www.ippnw.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/IPPNW-Germany-Health-Effects-of-Chernobyl-20-years-after-the-reactor-catastrophe.pdf
Here they say “50k to 100k long term deaths”
Glad you were able to support your position with a down vote and no citations, what an engaging conversation. Clearly you have the superior moral high ground, and a 12 inch penis /s.
Have you read the paper you are presenting. It has no sourced facts. The only thing it says is based on studies from xyz but it does not list them or cite them. It also states that both the WHO and IAEA are part of a massive transnational conspiracy… Id call this ticktok slop if it was in video form instead of paragraph.
Your comment is not correct.
From Chernobyl alone, and only in Belarus, Russia and Ukraine, and only from cancer, there have been 27’000 deaths. http://allthingsnuclear.org/post/4704112149/how-many-cancers-did-chernobyl-really-cause-updated
Then there’s all of the other bullshit. 270’000 people irradiated in this accident alone https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyshtym_disaster
Then there’s all of the nice little things like the literal mafia dumping nuclear waste https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toxic_waste_dumping_by_the_'Ndrangheta
Or dumping it into the oceans https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocean_disposal_of_radioactive_waste
Or Germany putting nuclear waste into plain metal barrels and putting them into a salt mine. Since metal and salt mix so well. https://www.dw.com/en/germanys-leaking-nuclear-waste-dump/video-69502364
Clearly one braking dam is an argument against wind turbines and solar panels. Oh the horror and deaths of free rooftop electricity to power ACs.
How many times am I going to hear about Chernobyl or Three Mile Island?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyshtym_disaster
Casualties 270,000-500,000+ affected . 10,000–12,000 evacuated . At least 200 people died of radiation sickness, unknown estimated future death toll from radiation induced illness. 66 diagnosed cases of chronic radiation syndrome
that’s 266+ dead and another 25 to 100 likely from long term exposure and contamination casualties over the next century.
How many die each day from petrochemical fumes?
Ha, so nuclear is so bad, we have to compare it to the petrochemical industry, which is the most polluting on earth? That says a lot, but not the way you’d probably like
do they still teach reading comprehension in schools?
Ad hominem
I guess they do not. Perhaps a graph will help visually make my point.
Deaths per TWH
More like 10k to 50k long term deaths due to effects of radiation exposure like cancer. Cancer rates among those affected by radiation are way higher than you assume.
provide a source https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2889503/
Want to source that? Chenrobyl is the worst disaster nuclear has had by far and… it basically slightly raised background exposure by a few % if you lived in poland ukraine or russia . The Kyshtym exclusion zone may sound scary but the effective dose of radiation in Ozyorsk isabout 0.1 mSv a year, which is harmless compared to a natural radiation background of about 2 mSv a year. AKA living on granite or marble is worse than living in the exclusion zone.
Until you realize that a water dam is very different from a solar panel.