Preorders in 2027. No photos or real feature reveals.

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    Why is Price X + “Delivery Fee”… no if I cannot avoid the fee then that should be in the price. $28,350 + FEE ($1,595) = $29,945 this is the price. Why is it always smoke and mirrors with cars?

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      The US auto industry lobbied many hours and many dollars to set up protectionist laws so that startup companies and foreign competitors were at a disadvantage. These have been the laws so long it hurts.

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        The Slate startup is doing the same thing, unfortunately. Price was announced as $24,950 and then later the $1450 destination fee showed up in the fine print.

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    It’d be nice of someone told them you don’t need that big pedestrian smasher grill on an ev.

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    Ew.

    Just release an EV Ranger with a diesel range extender option you can set in the bed for long hauls. Make the range extender look like any toolbox.

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      It looks like it’s intentionally wrapped in a way that hides the proper shape right now, like there’s a plastic bag on the front with something inside making it stick up more. Maybe I’m wrong, but remove all that and I think it’s just generic Ford truck shaped.

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      At some point you need to stop letting perfect be the enemy of the good. Bezos is a Slate investor, but that hardly makes a slate something that’s made by Bezos. It doesn’t seem connected to the Amazon ecosystem in any way.

      It’s really easy to purity test oneself into complete irrelevance.

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        Anything that doesn’t have mandatory telemetry gets my approval. It’s a very low bar to clear but there really aren’t any others trying to do it.

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        “[Don’t] [let] perfect be the enemy of good” is such an overused and rarely useful phrase, most often little more than a blunt object used to insist that people accept tepid compromises rather than daring to demand genuine solutions.

        Not that EVs are bad of course, but EVs for ‘everyone’ as opposed to mass transit isn’t a solution (although of course it is a slightly less bleak shade of shit than ICE vehicles for ‘everyone’), and doing that whilst enabling people who are already benefitting disproportionately from the status quo to benefit ever more dramatically is even less of one.

        It’s really easy to compromise oneself into complete irrelevance too, and rather easier to compromise oneself into complicity.

        Edit: Not to suggest that the worst of this applies to you at all, it was just the nth time of seeing that phrase used frivolously.

    • cAUzapNEAGLb@lemmy.world
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      Check out telo - i really like them (wish it were more affordable, but still, if i were to buy a new vehicle, itd be that one once available and vetted)

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        Telo and Canoo really went back to the drawing board and designed trucks around the skateboard design of an EV. No frunk, front seat as far forward as possible, relatively aerodynamic design. Carbros absolutely hated them and derided them to no end but the only real objection was that they looked so much different from the designs they are accustomed to to, that is, designs tailored to the specific problem of accommodating a large engine block. At some point we’re going to have to leave these designs in the past, it’s just a matter of time.

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          Meanwhile, the past:


          Edit: the more I think about it, bringing back the Econoline brand specifically as an electric “cabover” pickup and/or van would be extremely cool.

          (It wouldn’t really be a cabover because the thing the cab is over is the engine and an EV doesn’t have that, but you know what I mean.)

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            Gimme one of those except the cab is over a spacious frunk instead of an engine. Maybe make the frunk a big drawer that can slide out. That’d kick ass and look good doing it.

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              There’s no room for a frunk; that’s where your legs go. The engine in those things is under the seats and possibly behind the front axle.

              [On a related note, that’s why I kinda want a Toyota Previa. With a little modification (only because not all options were offered at the same time/trim level, so you have to swap), you could truthfully tell people you have a mid-engine, supercharged, AWD, manual-transmission vehicle… and then roll up in a minivan!]

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                I came across this bad boy the other day while looking at kei trucks. It’s an automatic but the right hand drive would add another level in your scenario.

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                Oh, right, in that case give it a storage tunnel deal. Drawers on each side would be epic, eliminating the need for a leaky inaccessible bed box.

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                  I was thinking the bench seat would just flip up or something like that, but your idea is better. Clearly, I’m not thinking modern enough, LOL!

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          Hadn’t heard of those before. I like the Canoo design immediately, Telo less so but if they ever made a 2 door with a longer bed I’d probably be into it.

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            The point of the telo is that it doesn’t need a longer bed. The rear seat folds down and you open a hatch and now you have a 8ft bed in a vehicle the size of a Mini Cooper

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            I truly appreciate that a company is doing something radically unique and I understand taste is subjective.

            That being said: hell no. The Canoo looks like a ski lift gondola with wheels.

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    Yeah, I’m staying the fuck away from Ford or at least the next 5 years. They outsourced all of their design shit to AI and then had to higher engineers back.

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      I think I’m honestly going to do with an ebike. Car prices have gotten insane lately. I no longer travel across the country for work, and it’s just me so I think I could manage regular small trips to the grocery store and back on a bike that I didn’t have to do all the work to propel.

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            There are importers that get every thing translated. They are also pretty simple. Basically the same thing as an electric bike with a different shape.

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              I was joking about not being able to understand a bike that spoke Chinese, and your response had me picturing a rickshaw with some other guy running along side to translate between me and the poor bastard pulling me around.

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    Oh look, Ford is making another shit UV with a pretend bed, so innovative.

    Will start at $30k with the mandatory fees, before the dealers “value add” it another $15k.

    My 2006 Ranger is the last Ford I will ever own.

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      One thing I will say is I wager they will have a midgate option, which could promote the bed to vaguely serious compared to a Maverick, in some situations. They have a few times mentioned surfboard in the bed, and double downed in their sort of reveal trailer, where they clearly show it laying down with tailgate up.

      May be a decent compromise in a truck market obsessed with crew cabs.

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    Great another monster sized truck that needs to do a 3 point turn to get on to my street because they can’t corner worth a shit. Even Maverick - which might be the smallest pick up I can get in the US right now is the size of a large to mid sized pick up.

    Man I’d love to have an EV truck that is the size of one of the old Toyota pick-ups from the 90s. Make me a truck that I can see over the roof of and I am sold.

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      I put money down on a Slate. It was the closest to what I wanted; a simple, no bs, light duty truck that’s electric.

      Their site puts it at just a little bigger than 1980’s Toyota pick-up.

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      This is nothing close to a “monster size truck”, it’s actually quite small. Its smaller than a Maverick even. And while you can argue its not quite as small as the compact pickups of yore, there’s absolutely no universe where it’s “monster sized”.

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      A Maverick is almost exactly the same size as a mid-'90s Ranger, which is a compact pickup. The only difference is that it’s got more cab and less bed.

      (Source: I parked my Ranger next to a Maverick once.)

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        The only difference is that it’s got more cab and less bed.

        The only difference is that it’s got more hat and less cattle.

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        I remember driving my dad’s mid 90’s extended cab ranger and it felt huge. I have a core memory of trying to do a U-turn on a mildly busy street in it and how stressful that was for teenage me.

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          I should clarify: a Maverick is roughly the same length as my regular-cab, short-bed Ranger.

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    Ford seems desperate to sell now that they’ve made all of their vehicles too large and too expensive for the ordinary citizen. Money talks I guess, but I wouldn’t trust those fuckers. Now Nissan or Honda? I’ll look twice at them when car shopping.