• Waryle@jlai.lu
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    3 hours ago

    Just copy-pasting at this point:

    Reactors in France are shut down not because of lack of water, but as an ecological precaution because the effects of warming up rivers even more is not well known (even if it seems to have not much more impact than the heat wave in itself )

    And even with these reactors shut down, France still exported 5-10GW of power at the time.

    So yeah let’s not propagate the anti-nuclear propaganda trying to paint the situation as “nuclear can’t handle global warming and will cause blackouts”, when in reality it’s just us having so much decarbonated electricity that we can afford to produce less as an ecological precaution.

    And who the hell takes its news for oilprice.com ?

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      For France, this is correct. But in Hungary and Romania the problem was not that the river water was too warm, it was that it had disappeared entirely. The water levels are too low to properly cool the reactors.

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        Accurate, but concerning this post specifically, it’s whataboutism

        France is fine. And their power is dirt cheap in comparison. And they have competent people that plan for that kind of thing as opposed to Romania.

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      And some anti-nuclears here took that as, “warming rivers can no longer cool the reactors” too which is literally the other way around… Bruh…

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    Hah, they should just have built more nuclear power plants instead of their stupid, hippy…

    checks notes

    Oh…

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      1. It’s 0.14 EUR per kWh. Electricity is more expensive even in ROMANIA. I pay 1.14 RON per kWh which is about 0.23 EUR.

      2. They are winding down due to unproven river warming precautions not because the rivers can no longer cool the reactors. It’s a preemptive precaution that they are doing because their LEISURELY CAN do it, not an emergency, not a big deal, not a reason to paint nuclear as the devil AGAIN.

      3. Good job reading the headline, I guess.

      There is a situation in Romania however. One of the 2 parts of the Cernavoda plant is shut down because the Danube can’t safely cool them both anymore. But we are just importing more, we’re perfectly fine. We still have power with no plans to cut power to home users.

      The situation in Romania is 10 times worse but it’s still not even enough to matter for anything but the largest consumers. Our prices haven’t gone up either.

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    Warming rivers are making it so they cannot cool the reactors and stay critical, I never thought I’d see that. Does anyone know if they’re still contemplating the thorium breeder reactors south of Vizely?

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      It happened to a building in the UK, can’t remember the exact details, but the used the canal as a heat sink, well one year then canal heated up and the system stopped working

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    14 hours ago

    142.5 euros per megawatt hour (MWh)

    That’s 0,14 Euro per kWh

    Perfectly within normal variation in spot prices here.

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    11 hours ago

    Not so funny thing is that the solar power (at least panels as far as I know) doesn’t work well either if the weather is really hot.

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      7 hours ago

      This is borderline fake news - I can confirm that the system on my roof worked during the heatwaves without any problem.

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        So no problems with efficiency and coating still not starting to degrade and electronics survived it well? What do you consider heatwave? If your system records the temperature / panel inner temperature and production data it would be interesting to see. I’m especially interested in the data from france and spain in the times of extreme heat (close to when the fires happened).

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      They lose a bit in efficiency, yes. On the other hand there is usually not much of a cloudy weather when it’s that hot either. Solar panels still work more efficiently and deliver more electricity under these conditions than most other forms of power generation.