• idiomaddict@lemmy.world
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    9 小时前

    Oh, I don’t trust any governments, but I thought a list of ~200 would be overkill.

    For those specifically? Iran’s shitty to women and Kurds (but man do I love what they’re doing with the US); China’s shitty to its neighbors, the Congo, and Uyghurs; and the DPRK and Belarus are providing military support to Russia for its neighbor invasion.

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      9 小时前

      So, you do find those governments trustworthy, and you do understand why the rest of the world does, as well, you just have criticism of some of their policies (in some cases, it is understandable, but, in other cases, it’s just old pieces of your empire’s propaganda that you’re leadership doesn’t even bother with trying to substantiate anymore - I recommend you reevaluate what the people that previously sold you on Iraq’s WMDs say about their enemies instead of blindly believing them). Not sure what you mean about the PRC doing something bad to Congo.

      Also, considering that you seem to find Belarus and the DPRK’s help to Russia, I have a couple of questions for you:

      1. Do you, in that case, condemn Ukraine helping NATO invade Iraq, Syria, Iran, and elsewhere?
      2. Do you concern NATO self-admittedly pushing for war with Russia (including prior to 2022)?
      3. What should a state do when the most prolific invader in the world - NATO - starts amassing troops on that state’s border?
      • idiomaddict@lemmy.world
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        8 小时前

        I do not find them trustworthy, no. Additionally, I don’t like you putting words in my mouth, nor do I like you assuming where my information comes from or what I believed about WMDs, especially when you’re not even informed about the straight up WMF-level financial colonialism going on in the Congo (along with many other recipients of Belt and Road funding).

        To answer your questions: yes, yes, and set up defensive measures.

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            5 小时前

            This article about mining agreements in the former Katanga province talks about the fact that 90% of the mineral wealth in the region goes to China, the extortionate debt repayment terms, and the allegations of child labor, but the latter is sourced better here.

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              2 小时前

              The situation doesn’t look that bad for China.

              The quote doesn’t talk about wealth:

              He said that 90% of the region’s minerals went to China.

              The wealth could still be split differently. Since Congo owns 30% of the mining company I would assume that share.

              The child labor articles mentions trafficking by militias. That would be the rebels then which would be less the government and China and more the West.

        • Tomorrow_Farewell@lemmy.ml
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          8 小时前

          I do not find them trustworthy, no.

          Okay, what agreements did they break, and/or what countries did they invade this century, then?

          I don’t like you putting words in my mouth

          What words did I put in your mouth?

          nor do I like you assuming where my information comes from

          There are claims (and opinions) that you are making that have very few sources and those sources are the same where one would get stuff like Iraq having WMDs, so you definitely do need to engage in some reflection.

          especially when you’re not even informed about the straight up WMF-level financial colonialism going on in the Congo

          Considering that all of the claims about the PRC supposedly engaging in financial entrapment of other governments have been false, I have a good reason to disbelieve this claim unless I see a trustworthy source. (No, Adrian Zenz is not one, and neither is RFA.)

          along with many other recipients of Belt and Road funding

          Ah, so, it is just Zenz/RFA stuff, again.

          To answer your questions: yes, yes, and set up defensive measures.

          Defensive measures like what?

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            8 小时前

            Gee, as fun as this is, I am not enjoying it and I’m going to stop.

            As a last note: I was doubtful about whether Uyghurs were mistreated when all of the sources lead back to Zenz, because I didn’t think he was a trustworthy source either. You should look into it more, because it’s no longer the case that he is the only source of information about the genocide China is currently conducting against Uyghurs.

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              30 分钟前

              Ok. What are the other sources?
              So far, I am not aware of any, other than a meeting where they admitted to having been unable to verify their own sources.