I get that there has been issues with bureaucracy and delays and whatnot… but they really should have started the citizenship process right when the right honourable, friend of the pigs, Mr. Cameron announced they would have the vote.
If a gang gathers at my yard and they tell me they will vote if they will set my house on fire or not, I start dialing the fire department then, not when they start whittling the kindling.
I’m not big on victim blaming either, but I do think it’s weird to consider Sweden your primary home, and yet not apply for citizenship much earlier than that.
Prior to the law change a couple months ago, he could have become a citizen after just 5 years (or 3 if cohabitation with a Swede). Both the UK and Sweden recognize double citizenship as well, so there’s really no reason not to…
He has also missed out on all non-local elections his entire adult life, because non-citizens can only vote for local government, and now he’s paying the price. It’s very sad.
Literally the whole point of the Withdrawal Agreement is that you retain the rights you had as an EU citizen. My ID card essentially has “treat as an EU citizen even though he’s British” written on it (it actually says “beneficiary of the withdrawal agreement”, but that’s the meaning), so why would I need or particularly want to change my citizenship?
The whole “they shouldn’t be allowed to live here if they won’t apply for citizenship” line is exactly the anti-EU-FoM line that the Brexiteers used to justify Brexit. It’s genuinely amazing how every time this comes up all the supposedly anti-Brexit people start parroting UKIP lines like they’re gospel, because apparently it’s only a problem when it’s Poles or Romanians on the receiving end, not Brits.
Tbh, I didn’t even realize I was doing victim blaming. I just thought that was common sense. Life is unfair and bureaucracy is cold and not flexible. You just got to have your ducks in a row and papers in order, in time. And when I say “in time” I mean like 2 years before the absolute last chance. If you are not 10 steps in front of things, this shit happens.
I know because I’ve experienced it myself and every time it was my fault for doing things withing the allowed time but not early.
Sweden didn’t even decide what the correct process was until the end of 2020, months after other EU nations, because their government is incompetent.
And it turns out your advice is completely wrong - as this guy found out, citizenship is discretionary, and not covered by the withdrawal agreement. What he should have done is follow the paperwork for registering as a beneficiary under the WA, his mistake was thinking citizenship was a better idea. (Not that that paperwork is a requirement of the WA either, but who knew that the Swedes of all people would be the ones to break an EU treaty?)
Sellers was aware that Brexit might affect his right to stay in the country and, without any communication from government authorities, he considered his best option was to apply for Swedish citizenship.
This he did in September 2021, before the Brexit deadline of 31 December that year.
Yeah, like I said, I know theres been issues with that stuff.
But thats why starting the process in 2021 September was like 5 years too late lol. Should have started it when the campaign for the vote was going on, at the latest on the day the results came in.
Nobody knew what the process was the day the results came in. Most of us found out beginning of 2020, and the Swedish government fucked around for another 9 months and didn’t even pass the law until the end of 2020.
I get that there has been issues with bureaucracy and delays and whatnot… but they really should have started the citizenship process right when the right honourable, friend of the pigs, Mr. Cameron announced they would have the vote.
If a gang gathers at my yard and they tell me they will vote if they will set my house on fire or not, I start dialing the fire department then, not when they start whittling the kindling.
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I’m not big on victim blaming either, but I do think it’s weird to consider Sweden your primary home, and yet not apply for citizenship much earlier than that.
Prior to the law change a couple months ago, he could have become a citizen after just 5 years (or 3 if cohabitation with a Swede). Both the UK and Sweden recognize double citizenship as well, so there’s really no reason not to…
He has also missed out on all non-local elections his entire adult life, because non-citizens can only vote for local government, and now he’s paying the price. It’s very sad.
Literally the whole point of the Withdrawal Agreement is that you retain the rights you had as an EU citizen. My ID card essentially has “treat as an EU citizen even though he’s British” written on it (it actually says “beneficiary of the withdrawal agreement”, but that’s the meaning), so why would I need or particularly want to change my citizenship?
The whole “they shouldn’t be allowed to live here if they won’t apply for citizenship” line is exactly the anti-EU-FoM line that the Brexiteers used to justify Brexit. It’s genuinely amazing how every time this comes up all the supposedly anti-Brexit people start parroting UKIP lines like they’re gospel, because apparently it’s only a problem when it’s Poles or Romanians on the receiving end, not Brits.
Tbh, I didn’t even realize I was doing victim blaming. I just thought that was common sense. Life is unfair and bureaucracy is cold and not flexible. You just got to have your ducks in a row and papers in order, in time. And when I say “in time” I mean like 2 years before the absolute last chance. If you are not 10 steps in front of things, this shit happens.
I know because I’ve experienced it myself and every time it was my fault for doing things withing the allowed time but not early.
Sweden didn’t even decide what the correct process was until the end of 2020, months after other EU nations, because their government is incompetent.
And it turns out your advice is completely wrong - as this guy found out, citizenship is discretionary, and not covered by the withdrawal agreement. What he should have done is follow the paperwork for registering as a beneficiary under the WA, his mistake was thinking citizenship was a better idea. (Not that that paperwork is a requirement of the WA either, but who knew that the Swedes of all people would be the ones to break an EU treaty?)
Seems like he did everything by the books.
Yeah, like I said, I know theres been issues with that stuff.
But thats why starting the process in 2021 September was like 5 years too late lol. Should have started it when the campaign for the vote was going on, at the latest on the day the results came in.
Nobody knew what the process was the day the results came in. Most of us found out beginning of 2020, and the Swedish government fucked around for another 9 months and didn’t even pass the law until the end of 2020.