• roofuskit@lemmy.world
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    The number of Europeans in here acting like What’s App, which might as well be Facebook Messenger, is some sort of high road is hilarious.

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      10 hours ago

      I work with a lot of European teams and they always make me use WhatsApp. I hate it.

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      Yeah I still don’t get why people use or promote WhatsApp. If anything, use Signal or even Telegram

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        Telegram is worse than even Whatsapp, since it’s not even pretending to be end to end encrypted.

        The real choice is signal or threema.

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        You can’t use Signal or Telegram because your contacts are on WhatsApp, but yes WhatsApp might as well be called Facebook Messenger

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          15 hours ago

          Your contacts weren’t always on WhatsApp, stop using it and if they want to talk to you enough they’ll join a better platform. Maybe just keep sending them links every day about how trash WhatsApp and Meta are until they get the point lmao

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            Already did that, and after two years I’m back on WhatsApp. Everytime you do something at least a bit social it will be a WhatsApp group, you can refuse of course, but believe me, unless it’s really close friends no one is going to put the extra effort to reach you.

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        I have thought this for years. Everyone slimes on Americans for using iMessage and asks who no WhatsApp? Same reason I’m not on facebook, don’t use a meta quest, and don’t use instagram.

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          While Whatsapp is not great, the problem with iMessage is that it is (was?) locked exclusively to the apple platform

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            Yeah, thats the main issue with imessage (and it still is) and if your switching from IOS to android, you have to start over on all of your messages unless if you figure out a way to back them up.

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              It’s not a good solution, but from a meme in c/selfhosting i learned that through the price of a used mac mini (about $120 at that time) you can selfhost iMessage on mac, and selfhost a 3rd party free software called Bluebubbles, which, as far as i can tell, uses Google and Cloudflare services to convey the iMessages to your Android phone.

              I’m sure it is a privacy nightmare. But the shunning for not having iMessage from my own family was getting to me, real or imagined.

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                  What do you mean exactly start over? If you don’t have iMessage, you can’t talk to other people with iMessage.

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                    Yeah, its basically that. When i moved from IMessage to Google Message(this was before i went down the FOSS rabbit hole), you have to remake your group chats or someone who is your contact would have to send a text that makes you rejoin a group chat even though you no longer see any of your old messages. One of the biggest annoyances from Apple, its way to locked down to the point that you cant even export your messages, unless its with another apple device.

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                  I’ve never had a problem starting over. Used to custom ROM hope back in the day and start with a fresh Android release on the cyanogenmod nightly releases.

                  There is nothing in my iMessage that I would be sad to lose moving to Android.

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                Sure but if you want it to work wirhbpbine number you have to have a phone talk about every seven days.

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          WhatsApp does not commit the sin of not having cross platform support at all, it is genuinely the most pratical and easy to use proprietary IM solution besides the network effect