This looks like an inexpensive hobby where labor cost is not factored in when you gift your neighbors extra food instead of preserving it. The neighbors might love you, but this is not really sustainable if you don’t get anything in return.
Indeed. I’m just criticizing OP suggesting this might be a way to structure society in general. I’m a fan of anarchism, but like many idealized political systems it doesn’t work as advertised. Same for communism and capitalism. That’s why sensible nations have long chosen social capitalism.
No one is suggesting this is a way to structure society. It’s an example of a small, radical action an individual can take.
Anarchism can look like seemingly small, community-focused acts. The point is that it is not scary or apocalyptic. It is also not a single defined system that either “works” or “doesn’t work”.
Ararchism works great so long and the entire group is committed to the plan, and retains the power to expell any person who tries to take advantage. To each as required, from each as able is more arnarchistic than communist. It’s the attempt of one in group to obtain and retain that power of expulsion that leads to a power structure.
And as long as the group is small and does not need to sustain itself without an external exchange of capital and goods. Like a commune, but working in the real world.
The group can be any size so long as everyone involved is against structured social power. How much digression from the ethos is allowed is up to the community at large
If they cannot play nicely, it’s not my prerogative to care. Imo anarchy is for people who can get along, those who cannot can go bar bar where ever they want, somewhere else.
I enjoy that immensely myself when gardening. I’m just not suggesting this as a generalizable way to feed (or organize) society which the word anarchism suggests.
Meh, regardless of whether or not we can grow enough in home gardens to feed everyone (obviously we cannot), the benefits of having access to lots of fresh veggies nearby + the social aspect of finding solidarity with your neighbors in mutual aid seems to be more the point here, not that literally this garden is enough.
That and the fact that most people associate “anarchy” with something scary, but here is an example of one of the most radical things you can do and it’s something you’re granny probably does, thus “anarchy” is not scary seems to also be the point of this post
Yeah… Why would I want to share a few bottles of plum mead I made with friends, nothing in return!
Much better to sit inside on your own without any friends and never speaking to anyone. Makes it easier to blame minorities for all of the problems in society too.
Except the blame minorities part, I don’t mind the sit inside on my own bit, as a hermit by nature. I’d still grow stuff to share with the community as much as I’m able though. Just because I don’t want to interact with people face to face doesn’t mean I don’t care that they are fed
Food preservation is a lot of work, better to spread it on many shoulders. Usually what happens is that the neighbours return some glasses of jam etc. as a thank you.
This looks like an inexpensive hobby where labor cost is not factored in when you gift your neighbors extra food instead of preserving it. The neighbors might love you, but this is not really sustainable if you don’t get anything in return.
Such a rotten mindset. “Neighbors might love you” but “you don’t get anything in return”.
Love is not nothing man! Even if you can’t quantify it into moneys.
This is your brain on capitalism…
Indeed. I’m just criticizing OP suggesting this might be a way to structure society in general. I’m a fan of anarchism, but like many idealized political systems it doesn’t work as advertised. Same for communism and capitalism. That’s why sensible nations have long chosen social capitalism.
No one is suggesting this is a way to structure society. It’s an example of a small, radical action an individual can take.
Anarchism can look like seemingly small, community-focused acts. The point is that it is not scary or apocalyptic. It is also not a single defined system that either “works” or “doesn’t work”.
Ararchism works great so long and the entire group is committed to the plan, and retains the power to expell any person who tries to take advantage. To each as required, from each as able is more arnarchistic than communist. It’s the attempt of one in group to obtain and retain that power of expulsion that leads to a power structure.
And as long as the group is small and does not need to sustain itself without an external exchange of capital and goods. Like a commune, but working in the real world.
The group can be any size so long as everyone involved is against structured social power. How much digression from the ethos is allowed is up to the community at large
what about the people you expell? what happens to them?
If they cannot play nicely, it’s not my prerogative to care. Imo anarchy is for people who can get along, those who cannot can go bar bar where ever they want, somewhere else.
When I help people, I get something out of that. I feel GOOD. Try it. It works.
I enjoy that immensely myself when gardening. I’m just not suggesting this as a generalizable way to feed (or organize) society which the word anarchism suggests.
Meh, regardless of whether or not we can grow enough in home gardens to feed everyone (obviously we cannot), the benefits of having access to lots of fresh veggies nearby + the social aspect of finding solidarity with your neighbors in mutual aid seems to be more the point here, not that literally this garden is enough.
That and the fact that most people associate “anarchy” with something scary, but here is an example of one of the most radical things you can do and it’s something you’re granny probably does, thus “anarchy” is not scary seems to also be the point of this post
Yeah… Why would I want to share a few bottles of plum mead I made with friends, nothing in return!
Much better to sit inside on your own without any friends and never speaking to anyone. Makes it easier to blame minorities for all of the problems in society too.
Except the blame minorities part, I don’t mind the sit inside on my own bit, as a hermit by nature. I’d still grow stuff to share with the community as much as I’m able though. Just because I don’t want to interact with people face to face doesn’t mean I don’t care that they are fed
But you’re expecting of a return. That’s not what it’s about
Food preservation is a lot of work, better to spread it on many shoulders. Usually what happens is that the neighbours return some glasses of jam etc. as a thank you.
O.O
I’ve seen how my neighbors park their cars and look after their kids. I would not trust them to make anything that requires precision and attention.
Botulism is no joke.
O.O
Are you for real?
I can assure you that botulism in self-made jams is an absolute freak event that is less likely than being struck by a meterorite 🙄
And you can easily see when a jam has turned bad otherwise and just discard it 🤷
Maybe not jams in particular, but canning in general is not something I would trust my neighbors to do.
I would probably turn it into alcohol