The Polish military is truly a behemoth, these coupled with Poland’s growing AH64E fleet make the idea of suppressing or even predicting the regional location of Polish deep strike capability a hopeless task, even in a scenario where Poland has been significantly degraded in defensive capability from preceding strikes these two tools alone in the hands of competent military leadership could gut any real traditional landwar threat to Poland in the throat… and no matter how good your intelligence is on Poland do you really know which shipping crates are the danger crates?
On the otherhand seeing where an Apache is one day doesn’t tell you much about where it will be the next unlike traditional strike systems… which makes russian/iranian style mass flying bomb attacks a dubious proposition even with endless planning and subterfuge.
Traditional static airbases are highly vulnerable to drones like this which is where the synergy comes in with helicopters that can network and command them while operating out of adhoc improvised positions.
note the UK military has this same strength as well, so does India…
damn, the way some people talk about these things, you almost forget that their primary use is destruction. Oh, unless that’s the whole point of the interest.
OP reacts like an advertisement bot in this thread.
For helicopter pilots trained on Apaches their trainer helicopter the Lakota is widely used for bambi bucket firefighting, search and rescue, medical evacuation/transport and disaster/emergency response around the world, the skills and experience transfer from Apaches to non-wartime helicopter contexts. The same goes for the full stack of humans supporting and maintaining the operational capability of the helicopters.
For jet turbine flying bombs the argument is far more tenuous, though the diversity of non-wartime utilities fixed wing propeller driven drones provide is nearly endless.
Given its neighbourhood, that’s the bare minimum one could expect. And that goes doubly so if AfD take power in Germany.
Defo not a war thunder leaker but: the real reason you really dont want hot jet engines is because of cheap heat seaking missiles launchable from anything including infantry units. Hence why drones use propeller engines sometimes insulated to be invisible to infrared. GG poland
the real reason you really dont want hot jet engines is because of cheap heat seaking missiles launchable from anything including infantry units
That is precisely why this drone’s carefully designed engine shrouds that are also low radar profile are such a sophisticated design.
Look at the engine shrouds on modern low radar profile low infared signature jet aircraft, it is the same idea and it makes the problem you think is simple into a much more complicated problem.
A missile needs to really see into the blazing core of the jet cone to be decisively effective which is one of the reasons the Su-57’s widely spaced jet turbines visible from a dizzying array of angles paired with its low radar profile design make two comical brothers who hate each other.
https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/a22341/f-35-stealth-infrared/
edit I believe the engine is bolted to the outside for display purposes but maybe I am wrong
I mean, sure, if you have thousands of them.
The bottleneck is only access to capital and small jet turbines… unless of course you don’t have a fleet of hovering command centers/dragons that are hauling a dizzying array of armament, two highly trained humans, high powered sensors, countermeasures and the communications infrastructure to serve as eyes for your blind mass produced flying bombs… if you don’t have that then the bottleneck is mass producing mini autonomous fighter jets which is a massively more difficult and ethically fraught challenge*.
In particular radically simple pulse jet engines may proliferate on (nonstealthy) platforms that fit the former type, especially in interceptor/decoy roles.
*the best example of this latter, much harder to nail down design goal is Turkey’s Kizilelma, and don’t take this as an indicator this is easy, take it as an expression of Turkey’s strength + them being in many ways blocked manned fighter jet access.



