Talking down to an audience they hate
I love when CHUDs see shit like the She-Hulk scene mocking sexist fans and go “waaaaaah they hate their audience”
My Brother in Christ if you feel seen by scenes like that that is 100% on you. The rest of us do not feel alienated by TV shows calling out sexists.
The entitled manchildren are here to explain why not pandering to a hateful minority is alienating their audience
As far as he’s fallen these days, MovieBob once pointing out in a very old video, from when he still worked for the Escapist, that white male nerds are getting angry that they aren’t the only target audience for nerd media anymore was a formative moment for me. Probably helped stop me from going down the wrong path.
Like thats what a LOT of this rage is about. White male nerds are no longer the most special wonderful target audience and are no longer being exclusively catered too and that makes them fucking FURIOUS. And they are reacting like the spoiled brats they are.
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I missed that one but thats hilarious. I do remember that reaction to other things though like Wolfeinstein and Farcry uh… 6? The one with the southern cult leader.
Far Cry 5 is like the most cowardly game ever made. Ubisoft could have easily made the cult into overt white supremacists, which is how they’re coded, and yet they aren’t. They even don’t identify as Christians. (There’s a scene where a cultist slaps a Bible out of a preacher’s hands and replaces it with their cult book)
And the good guys are all cops, small business owners, and little militia groups in the mountains that also wave American flags. Game is pretty fun though and has some cool moments.
One of my irl friends played and loved it and felt it qave cathartic for her religious trauma. Also considers “keep your rifle h by your side” a jam.
Isnt there a dlc or midquel or something that makes the cult leader the good guy tho lol?
Yeah I actually do like the game, but also I’ll never forgive it for failing to have a concrete political message. It vaguely gestures towards the idea that you’re fighting American fascists. Like a white supremacist militia, except it goes out of its way to say you’re not. They’re more like a Japanese doomsday cult than an American one. The enemies have much more in common with Aum Shinrikyo or the Falun Gong than any American Christian cults.
Other than how the leader will say Bible verses and they have a kind of rural American aesthetic to them. They’re also kinda similar to utopian hippies
And yeah the sequel has the cult leader basically repent himself, admit he was wrong to exploit people, and it’s actually a pretty neat story arc all things considered. The cult turns into woodland primitivists in a mad max world. I dug it. Pretty ok little experience.
Nah you thinking of far cry 5. 6 is where you’re a guerrilla revolutionary working with farmers, workers, anarchists and old communists to overthrow a Dictator who overthrew a communist government (a shit one since the libs can’t make a good game)
That sounds so cool on paper rho
It was fun to play with my critical thinking turned off
They don’t have a theory of mind. We aren’t part of the audience, we’re more like wildlife or scenery. NPCs, y’know?
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I mean tbh having worked in food service for years I have to believe that at least half the people I see are actual NPCs
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I met a guy practicing to be an NPC on Friday. Straight up lead with “I’ve been practicing my animatronic wave!”
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Are chuds aware they’re not the only ones who watch movies
What do they care? They want total hegemony of content that caters to and enforces their hostile, exclusive world view.
Is he suggesting Zack Snyder or cop show writers do not shoehorn their politics into shows?
There’s two kinds of thing: “thing I agree with” and “political”
Race? White and political. Gender? Male and political. Sexuality? Straight and political. etc etc
I would love to sit down and tease apart how this line of thought came to be
main character syndromeThe pervasiveness of US propaganda is not to be underestimated.
It’s called status quo. Political is when you change status quo. I don’t believe it’s any more complicated than that.
I think that’s accurate, but don’t think it explains the origins of the meaning. Like, were people using the word that way in the 1920s?
No, but the thinking itself predates that comfortably, ‘political’ is just the term used now
Women only got the right to vote in the US in 1920 and the country still had ‘Colored’ and ‘White’ restrooms/seating/etc for decades after
Yes, I am interested in doing a linguistic and cultural analysis/history of the term and married concepts and I keep getting responses like I want to argue
The term “politicize” is probably key to look at, since that’s synonymous with “making things political.” According to this it started gaining steam was in the 60’s, gaining a lot of use by 1980 and peaking around 2000. Politicization followed a similar trend, except it’s still rising in use.
I suspect given the dates that it was being used in the context of “politicizing Vietnam” (as ridiculous as that sounds). The implication being that once the country goes to war everyone should be expected to support it, and that critics of the war are just trying to smear their political opponents to advance their own careers, to the detriment of a common cause. This morphed slightly into the modern gamer use of “politicizing games,” with the implication that the common cause should be to entertain the audience, and that advancing any other agenda detracts from that (somehow)
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cop show writers
Seriously watch any random episode of Blue Bloods.
I would probably ask them to point to an apolitical show, mostly out of curiosity. I don’t think I’m convincing anyone with this line of thought though
If the history of chuds being asked this question tells me anything they are going to answer the singe most political show in the history of television. Remember, these are the people who did this: https://nitter.net/9_volt_/status/827887491738894337?lang=en (I will never stop bringing this up).
I would call their mind childlike but It would be an insult to children to call chuds minds childlike.
Yeah. Ive worked with kids. Kids are much more curious and open minded then these people.
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Honestly there isn’t a child on the planet who doesn’t contribute more net good to the world in a single day then Elon Musk has in his entire adult life. And I’d rather spend a whole year looking after the least pleasant children I worked with all by myself then spend 5 seconds in Musk’s presence.
So yes, I agree, describing Musk as a “manchild” is an insult to children.
Hahaha yes beautiful I do not get tired of seeing it
“political content”
imagine how low your standards must be to think AI scripts will be watchable, much less not any worse than whatever’s happening now
Chuds be telling me they support the working man and then say anti strike shit like this
By “support the working man” they mean “hate queer people”.
Coastal elite, woke cabal fake working class: Writers making starvation wages (they wrote a black character once)
Real, hardworking proletariat: Millionaire “farmers” (rural = working class)
The funny thing is, I’m a non-binary vegan commie with a silly haircut, and I’ve worked in manual labor and physical farm jobs more than any anti-woke right-wing tool I’ve met.
I also come from a family of electricians, builders, farm hands and carpenters. I’m as fucking working class as it gets.
In contrast, every IRL right-winger I’ve met has been a higher-up office worker
Ain’t that the truth. The majority of the working class people I know don’t really give a shit about politics. Like only management, pencil-pushers, and like a handful of real cranks even really talk Maga hog shit. The workers I talk to are a mix of vague conservative, liberal, proto-socialist, etc. Thoughts who haven’t really spent a lot of time thinking about it beyond vibes because there’s a material disconnect between politics and the material concerns of their daily lives.
“I support blue collar workers”
blue collar workers go on strike
“GET BACK IN THERE AND MAKE MY TREATS YOU FUCKING COMMIE FUCKS”
RIGHT TO WORK! RIGHT TO WORK!
cracks me up that the original VO for that character was
doing his bouncer voice
Lol is Dore anti-union now? Is he still claiming to be “on the left”?
His fans certainly are. He’s just a bog standard garden variety conservative talk show grifter now. What other conclusion can you come to when all he does is JAQ himself off with crank antivaxx shit, hours long meltdowns over the existence of trans people, platform other conservative grifters and bloviate about how republicans are the true working class working against the globalist woke cabal or whatever.
Oh we know he’s a right-winger, I was just wondering if he himself had realized that yet or if he somehow thinks he’s still on the left.
It’s this new/old trend of using left wing rhetoric to communicate right wing themes. I’m so sick of it and we aren’t even into the election year.
Well. He is on the “American Left”, so technically both things are true.
not political: robocop
political: superhero show with one (1) side character who is hinted at maybe being gay
Jimmy Dore losers deserve to be talked down to because they are lower than pond scum lol
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Pretty phenomenal case of “If people tell you who they are, believe them”
Yeah the Big Bang Theory really talked down to us… all that Trekkie and physics stuff… or could it just be that these rightwhingers lack the basic intellect to understand simple cultural aspects.
in the chud imagination, literally everyone in the United States (the only country) secretly agrees with them except people in Hollywood, people in New York, people in DC, and ungrateful blacks.
