I was wondering who is going to pay for the reconstruction of all the razed apartment buildings, schools and hospitals in Gaza? Are the US and Europe going to do that, or is Israel going to do at least this?

I am genuinely curious what the US (Americans) think about this, they provide Israel with munitions and military aid which are used to destroy civilian buildings and infrastructure in Gaza and then they will pay once again to restore them?

  • roofuskit@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    3
    ·
    5 days ago

    Israel will rebuild it when they build their new homes there. The gazans will all be dead or refugees somewhere else.

  • Tom_bishop@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    56
    ·
    1 year ago

    Israel is gonna pay for the for the reconstruction willingly & proudly. They’ve been doing it for more than 70 years. All the Palestinians’ apartment buildings that was destroyed for the past 70 years, Israel rebuild it, and then the Jews moves into the new area. Rinse and repeat until no more Palestine

  • banana_meccanica@feddit.it
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    50
    ·
    1 year ago

    No one will pay, there is no reconstruction on planning, that is an eternal war there will be never a winner and there is no sense to build on an battlefield.

  • TheBananaKing@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    43
    ·
    1 year ago

    They don’t want to reconstruct it, they want to raze it to the ground and kill everyone, then oh look free land.

  • Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    38
    ·
    1 year ago

    Netanyahu’s government doesn’t want there to be any reconstruction. The only thing more dangerous to them than a hard line Palestinian government is one willing to negotiate. The worse the conditions Palestinians are in the more militant they will be. This let Netanyahu justify being more aggressive.

      • Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        7
        ·
        1 year ago

        It doesn’t even have to be some intentional diabolic plan. There is no incentive to be a moderate in this conflict. Moderates have historically been killed by their own side. There would have been peace several times over if this was not the case. This conflict has devoled to the point that any move to the center will result in political suicide and possibly real suicide.

  • xenomor@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    29
    ·
    edit-2
    1 year ago

    As an American, I am dismayed to report that the bloodlust and empty-eyed support for anything Israel does is basically the only widely bipartisan issue that exists here. It is absolutely grotesque and disheartening. So, I expect that once the fascists have completed their final solution, the US will gladly help fund the reconstruction of the area, to make it shiny for a wave of American and Israeli settlers and for the sake of business relations. It makes little difference which party has the presidency.

  • DoomBot5@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    16
    ·
    1 year ago

    As long as Hamas still stands there won’t be any reconstruction. They take all the concrete imported to build their terror tunnels instead.

    • AlmightySnoo 🐢🇮🇱🇺🇦@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      15
      ·
      edit-2
      1 year ago

      Being downvoted to oblivion simply for stating what Hamas themselves are bragging about, they’re the ones boasting them being able to turn water pipes into rockets and construction materials into bombs. But of course anyone supporting Hamas will never tell you openly that they do so, so those internet warriors express their support for the terrorists instead “anonymously” with downvotes.

  • A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    15
    ·
    edit-2
    1 year ago

    Israel, unfortunately.

    The whole point of provoking these attacks via their violent oppression is so they can retaliate against Palestine, kill masses of innocents, and build new settlements on Palestinian land when the dust clears.

  • AlmightySnoo 🐢🇮🇱🇺🇦@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    13
    ·
    edit-2
    1 year ago

    Given how Iran actively funds the rockets that are being launched from residential rooftops in Gaza, and how Qatar is casually financing the lavish lifestyles of the Hamas leaders living in Qatar (enjoying paradise on earth while they convince their jihadists of committing terror in the hopes of entering paradise after death), I don’t think it would be a problem for them to also spare some money for the reconstruction, right?

    Iran’s oil revenue should be seized and their money in foreign banks should be frozen until we arrive at the reconstruction process, assuming the war even ends, so that the frozen assets pay for that, both for Gaza and Israel.

        • deadcatbounce@reddthat.com
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          1 year ago

          Fair point. Perhaps you know who was the major player. I really can’t tell which one: BP or The United States? So difficult to tell.

      • AlmightySnoo 🐢🇮🇱🇺🇦@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        6
        ·
        edit-2
        1 year ago

        That’s besides the point, my comment didn’t exclude any other financing, feel free to argue for others also chipping in. Now, why would you be opposed to forcing Iran to pay for their sponsoring of terrorism? Why do you believe Iran shouldn’t pay?

        • deadcatbounce@reddthat.com
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          edit-2
          1 year ago

          I’m not.

          I’m against the US interfering militarily covertly or otherwise in matters because it usually ends up creating more of a mess than it was before.

        • NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          6
          ·
          1 year ago

          Let me make this plain for you.

          Support innocents on both sides.

          Fuck Hamas and Israel both for their actions against innocents.

          Now will you say the same or try to call me antisemitic again?

          I might he wrong, about them supporting Hamas but I doubt Israeli newspapers would lie about about Netanyahu supporting Hamas and funding them years ago.

          I believe it was a times of Israel article but i will see if i can find and link it

      • AtmaJnana@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        edit-2
        1 year ago

        That’s a conspiracy theory. I spent 30 minutes searching and found no evidence Israel ever materially supported Hamas. At most they tolerated and maybe encouraged them as a counterweight to Fatah.

        • NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          1 year ago

          I found one where they controlled the purse strings and talked about how keeping Hamas helped them keep Palestine down.

          I’ll give you opinion but not conspiracy theory

  • Treczoks@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    12
    ·
    1 year ago

    Wrong question. The right question is: Who’s going to make a fortune on the reconstruction of Gaza?

    • EvilHaitianEatingYourCat@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      1 year ago

      Lol Israël providing water to Gaza? => “look how they make profit from Gaza!” Israël shutting water down? => “look what they doing, starving and torturing the civilians!”

      Can’t win this

      • Treczoks@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        1 year ago

        That was not what I was talking about. If anything will ever be built there, it will be a BIG job. And someone will make a shitload of money with that, regardless if they are from Gaza, Israel, or elsewhere. A beefy chunk of money coming from private donations, international support pledges or other states’ foreign help will end up in the (offshore) bank accounts of a few corrupt people.

    • Not_Alec_Baldwin@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      edit-2
      1 year ago

      I know you’re making more of a cynical joke, but no contractors are gonna be willing to go into Gaza to rebuild under Hamas.

      Some construction supplies wholesaler might make a killing, though.

  • neptune@dmv.social
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    11
    ·
    1 year ago

    The whole point is to take the land. So you are not quite asking the right question. Israel presumably will. So that it can occupy the land.

  • Orionza@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    9
    ·
    edit-2
    1 year ago

    Israel wants the land. They’ve been taking Palestinian homes and properties and kicking out the owners for many years. They’ve requested that people in northern Gaza move out, and go south or be killed. They plan to take Palestinian land for themselves, imo.

  • co209@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    9
    ·
    1 year ago

    Israel will build some very nice Jewish beachfront colonies over the bloodstained rubble. It’s what they’ve been doing in the West Bank and Jerusalem, at least.

  • Shambling Shapes
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    8
    ·
    1 year ago

    It will be a political debate point for decades to come, as how to support Israel has been a point of debate for decades past.

    US politics at the foreign policy level can change dramatically every election cycle. I can’t guess what their policies might be in the next 1, 5, 10 years.

    • Pons_Aelius@kbin.social
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      13
      ·
      1 year ago

      US politics at the foreign policy level can change dramatically every election cycle.

      Yes, they can but they don’t.

      • Bitrot@lemmy.sdf.org
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        1 year ago

        They won’t in this case. Israel can do nearly anything, the US will even condemn some of them, but that won’t affect support. As Biden has said many times “if there was no Israel the US would have to invent an Israel to protect her interests in the region.”

        • Pons_Aelius@kbin.social
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          1 year ago

          When it comes to foreign policy there is no real difference between D and R.

          R invaded Iraq on a lie.

          D stayed there and kept it going.