As lawmakers around the world weigh bans of 'forever chemicals,” many manufacturers are pushing back, saying there often is no substitute.

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    2 years ago

    It’s kinda hard to tell. I would need to find a specific list of things that we could no longer produce with the specific laws.

    If it’s just that we no longer get non-stick pans, I am fine with losing those if we get less cancer.

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      2 years ago

      How much less cancer do you prefer from these vs internal combustion cars?

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        The point is being missed. We shouldn’t use pfas for convenience items like pans and such. If we keep them well contained in EV batteries, that’s probably ok.

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          I concur. Plastic makes great electrical insulation, but not great disposable cups. Petroleum is very versatile feedstock but not a good energy source.

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          I do wonder if cooking in nonstick pans without oil is less risky than cooking with oil in conventional pans.

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            I don’t think there’s really any measurable difference, assuming the nonstick pan isn’t scuffed enough to cause bits and pieces to flake off into your food.

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              Cooking oil decomposes into carcinogens. Especially low smoke point oils.

              (Admittedly the increased risk from either is pretty low)

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        I don’t know. We stop cars, cancer goes away pretty quickly. Forever chemicals are well… Forever.

        That is why I need specifics. You deserve specifics too.

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          We stop all cars. Build nanomachines to cure cancer and enable cold fusion. Abolish capitalism . It’s all so easy.