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      Y’all are enjoying this? I’m not.

      No. But I enjoy this more than fascism, and likely all of those things you listed will get measurably worse under a second term of Trump armed with Project 2025.

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          So your entire hope is based on the idea that “This is currently fascism, and has been fascism for decades now, but if we let it get just a LITTLE bit worse, then The Revolution will totally rise up and overthrow this whole system!”?

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          But hopefully a revolution will come of it

          Hopefully? What a batshit insane notion. “Yeah, I hope my friends and family die in a civil war fighting fascists.” We don’t have to go to war, but if people act like they’re entitled to the “perfect” candidate earning their vote and are unwilling to make compromises, then Trump and the Heritage Foundation have already won.

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          Kinda fucking funny that a guy who is whining about “genocide enabling” wants a bunch of innocent civilians slaughtered in some fucked up idea of a “revolution”

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      “I’m not enjoying this on an abstract level, therefore, let the worst candidate win and make everything even worse. Fuck these other, poor people who actually struggle to get by on what meager assistance they receive. They can get less, so long as I don’t have to make a choice.”

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          It sounds like you’d rather things get much worse, because you think that will make things better. Is that what you think?

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                  There is serious violence and injustice in the world. We have leaders who came before us who demonstrated how collective action can effect change, and who have moved our society in a more just and inclusive direction versus 25, 50, 100, or 150 years ago.

                  Rather than put in that hard work though you could instead just give the fuck up and wish for violence, right

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          Oh? You mean like how fascism motivated change in Fascist Italy and Nazi Germany?

          Have fun in the fucking camps. I’ll probably off myself before that.

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            I hope not. You seem to understand what’s at stake, rather than believing beyond all sense and reason that there will be another democratic election post-Project 2025.

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              Don’t worry. I promised myself I wouldn’t off myself after my last attempt until I truly saw no way out. I’ll wait 'til the Gestapo are knocking at the doors. Til then, I’ll be doing what little I can to get milquetoast centrists elected, because as much as I’d like something better, I’m also under no illusion that making things worse will give some sort of ‘do-over’.

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                  Count yourself lucky. Lmao, one of my first political experiences online was quarreling with a left-wing accelerationist in the late 2000s. Wild stuff. They’ve only multiplied, unfortunately, as a result of the increasing dysfunction of the US political system and the dying promises of neoliberalism in general.