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u_tamtam@programming.dev to Technology@lemmy.worldEnglish · 2 years ago

Privacy is Priceless, but Signal is Expensive

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Privacy is Priceless, but Signal is Expensive

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u_tamtam@programming.dev to Technology@lemmy.worldEnglish · 2 years ago
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Signal is the world’s most widely used truly private messaging app, and our cryptographic technologies provide extra layers of privacy beyond the Signal app itself. Since launching in 2013, the Signal Protocol—our end-to-end encryption technology—has become the de facto standard for private commu...
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    Fr. Fuck signal for removing SMS support

    • KapiteinPoffertje@lemmy.world
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      I assume that is exactly for one of the reasons they mentioned in the article: increasing costs for sms

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        Wait. Signal was an SMS client. It wouldn’t cost them anything for a user to send an SMS message. IIRC, they nixed the SMS feature for security reasons, not cost.

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          That’s what they told me when gave then feedback through their website.

          There’s no free lunch and corporations aren’t the most trustworthy source of information though so maybe it was about cost.

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            isnt signal a nonprofit? not a corporation

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              Some nonprofit organizations are corporations and have pretty shitty practices:

              https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kids_Wish_Network

              The Morman church is another US ‘non-profit organization’ yet somehow hordes billions.

              Trusting blindly without doing research because something is presented as a non-profit is a good way to be taken for a fool and separated from your money.

              When signal made their own cryptocurrency which they entirely premined was a huge red flag. Dropping SMS support was an annoyance that broke the camels back.

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        Yeah I think you are right. I too was really mad at Signal for ditching sms, and THEN having the audacity to ask for donations! This article shines a light on the reasons, wow.

        Still, I would only donate if they kept sms in there. Not without sms because now it’s just one more isolated platform and no longer a one-stop solution at it used to be.

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          The sms cost is for account creation and verification on new devices, being an sms client didn’t cost anything aside from maintaining that portion of the app

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          A bit of transparency at the beginning would’ve helped…

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        One reason was worry that people accidentally send SMS when they mean to send a secure message

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      Was split off, called ‘Silence’.

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        There were two SMS mistakes by Signal:

        1. https://signal.org/blog/goodbye-encrypted-sms/

        2. https://signal.org/blog/sms-removal-android/

        @MonkderZweite
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