I love the idea of a privacy-focused fronend for YouTube, but every time I visit a piped link, it just spins forever. Both on my Linux desktop and my Android phone.

Maybe I’m doing something wrong?

Here is the latest one I tried and failed to load.

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    It’s a cat and mouse game with Google. Sometimes Piped works, other times it loads only the first minute of the video before hanging forever, and sometimes it doesn’t load at all. Often YouTube makes an updates that breaks it altogether until someone fixes it.

    I’ve had the most luck with NewPipe but unfortunately it’s only a mobile app, not a website. Works great though.

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          I’m afraid if it’s not a) FOSS and b) on F-Droid, I’m not interested. Grayjay appears not to qualify on either front.

          Edit: Oh damn. Louis Rossmann made Grayjay. Now I’m a little disappointed in Louis Rossmann.

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            Also, check the FUTO About page

            https://futo.org/what-is-futo/

            Check their ‘Our Three Pledges’, particularly the third one regarding open source…

            Quoted from their site, pledge #3

            “We will always be transparently devoted to making delightful software. All FUTO-funded projects are expected to be open-source or develop a plan to eventually become so. No effort will ever be taken to hide from the people what their computers are doing, to limit how they use them, or to modify their behavior through their software.”

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              All FUTO-funded projects are expected to be open-source or develop a plan to eventually become so.

              Huh. Well, if it even lands in F-Droid, maybe I’ll give it a try.

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                The app is so relatively new that initially it wasn’t even on any of the app stores, only straight from their site. But now it’s also on Google Play and APKPure, possibly other alternative app stores as well. Give it some time, I’m pretty sure F-Droid is on their radar as well sooner or later.

                The app is still labeled as being Under Construction, but so far I’m rather pleased with it and would recommend giving it a try.

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              I saw that. It’s not FOSS, though if that’s what you’re implying.

              Just reading over the license, it allows neither making modifications to the source nor commercial use. Allowing both of those would be necessary for it to qualify as either Free Software or Open Source. (And I’m not sure those are the only things in the license preventing it from qualifying as FOSS.)

              Source available ≠ FOSS. And Grayjay isn’t FOSS even if its source can be perused.

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                They don’t give a flying crap if you modify the source and compile it privately for yourself, they just don’t want people or companies making profit from their works or distributing said modifications without their approval.

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                  They don’t give a flying crap if you modify the source and compile it privately for yourself

                  Then why do they leave permission to do so out of their license? (So far, at least.)

                  they just don’t want people or companies making profit from their works or distributing said modifications without their approval.

                  That’s called “proprietary.”

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                    They’re not worried about individuals like ourselves making our own private modifications if we so care to. They know 95%+ of individuals out there aren’t even coders anyways, they just expect the few that do happen to go out of their way to modify their apps don’t distribute their mods without authorization.

                    The main infrastructure of their license is to make sure the big companies out there can’t legally rip off their code, alter it and sell it under their own branding or such.

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                TBH I don’t really care that much as long as the source is available. Some talented dev can fork it if the project goes sideways. I’d like a webapp/desktop app too

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                  Some talented dev can fork it

                  Not without infringing copyright. At least not the way the license is written now.