Hey, please report any transphobia so I can take care of it or an admin if they see it in the queue first. That being said, if you can, also please shoot me a private message on this account with a link to the offending content. Or shoot me a message on Discord (I’m in the Lemmy.world discord channel) with a link to the content.

Notifications don’t happen for reports or anything and I have to jump across two different accounts and check modqueues due to federation being a lil wonky. I don’t always catch them on that second account because I use it less often. So please shoot me a message with any reports <3 Thanks!

  • Jo Miran
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    8010 months ago

    On the one hand, I really want this T-shirt. On the other hand, I’m no longer very intimidating so it doesn’t really work. :-(

    • @Stamets@startrek.websiteOP
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      5110 months ago

      I’ve been repeatedly described as having “resting murder face”. Ignoring my size, that alone usually gets people to clear out.

      I need this shirt so bad

      • PaleRider
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        Yeah, that’s me. Unless I’m smiling or laughing my face is just completely emotionless.

        Never heard it called “Resting murder face” before but I’m stealing it…

        • @Stamets@startrek.websiteOP
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          I can’t remember where I heard it but it’s accurate. It also doesn’t help that I don’t blink very often and I just stare off into space while having some ADHD daydreams. I’ve seen people get up and move to the other end of the bus or subway car because I was just zoned out and thinking. They looked genuinely scared and kept looking back down at me.

          It’s so bad that if I’m walking around at night or something and the only other person around is a woman I tend to just start playing up the gay mannerisms because otherwise I’ve had people genuinely look shaken. I dunno if you’ve heard the bit from John Mulaney about essentially chasing a woman in the middle of the night with her freaking the hell out but that has more or less happened to me and I’m really trying not to repeat that lol

          • 🐍🩶🐢
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            Oh bless you. I feel bad. I am anxious enough walking around outside in rather empty places, even if it is about as safe as it gets. I don’t have anything constructive to say unfortunately, but I typically look for a vibe in people and try and be on my way instead of assuming the worst. Maybe I am naive. I am really sorry you have to go through that! You can have a hug from this Internet stranger. I truly wish we didn’t have to be so afraid.

      • @AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world
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        I finally found out that your username is a reference to a character on ST:Discovery. If I ever watch the show, I will likely end up thinking of you every time that character is on screen.

        I also have “resting murder face,” but I’m told that I’m a nice guy if you ignore the intensity of my “deep in thought” face.

        • @Stamets@startrek.websiteOP
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          Please do! The show is fairly entertaining and I gotta love my little gay man Stamets. First openly gay main Star Trek character. Meant a huge amount to me. The fact that he’s also a mycologist and loves mushrooms? Man after my own heart.

    • Rose Thorne(She/Her)
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      I want this shirt, and my spinniest of skirts.

      I’m even willing to let my beard grow back in. Go full “crazed mountain man” with it.

    • Selkie
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      Get enough friends to wear it with you and it won’t be a problem

  • @Zink@programming.dev
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    Hey, I’m a big white guy with a beard, and I think I need this shirt!

    I don’t do baseball hats and mirrored shades though. I wouldn’t want to look like a domestic terrorist or something.

  • WilfredVondel
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    I think the key word here is respect. Just because others don’t agree with a certain stance doesn’t mean they should be victimised (and that’s on both sides).

    Opinions help create a dialogue, and dialogue helps understanding and compassion.

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      Just because others don’t agree

      Your agreement is not required. They are people. Also they are trans. It isn’t a stance. It’s a fact. Whether someone doesn’t understand it or doesn’t agree with it is absolutely irrelevant. It’s not about them and your personal opinion doesn’t get to ever override someone else’s life.

      If you “don’t agree” with trans folks then you’re still a disgusting transphobe and I will hit you.

    • darq
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      This is same as homophobes “disagreeing” with gay people, or the gay “lifestyle”. It was nonsense then, it is still nonsense now.

          • @givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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            They saw r/eggirl and think it’s a massive conspiracy to trick people into transitioning instead of a meme sub for people who decided they want to transition.

            Just stupid shit they dont understand but are still super opinionated about…

            Typical conservative shit

          • StametsM
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            Transphobic dogwhistle bullshit. Comment has been removed. Sorry you had to see that.

    • Unaware7013
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      Just because others don’t agree with a certain stance doesn’t mean they should be victimised (and that’s on both sides).

      Lol, what ViCtImIzAtIoN are the LGBT doing to conservative assholes who hate them? Existing??

      Calling this a BoTh SiDeS issueis stupid, and pretending that there are two legitimate sides to the issue, and not one legitimate side and a bunch of fuckers who hate them for existing is next level braindead.

        • StametsM
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          1110 months ago

          This is a false narrative that is pushed by transphobes. What your claiming is simply a lie. You are not welcome here. Permanently banned.

          • InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works
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            210 months ago

            FYI, I’ve (very temporarily) restored that comment on sh.itjust.works because the sjw modlog wouldn’t show me this one.

            Anyway… you have my full support from me on this one and I’m sorry this community had to deal with this from one of our users.

            In the future, feel free to also report them, even if you plan to ban them yourself at the community level right after… the report would also show up in the admin queue of that user’s instance and some of those would warrant action on our end.

            • StametsM
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              Thanks for the heads up. I am still not entirely used to how the federation stuff works, nevermind moderator actions across it. Will definitely do so to report though. That was the Tbone dude, right? Just wanted to make sure. That’s the only SJW user that I’ve banned in the past 24 hours. Checking for my own records too. If so, then they’ve been permanently banned not just from the community but from lemmy.world as a whole.

              • InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works
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                Yea, federated moderation and reports isn’t obvious.
                And yes, tb0n3.
                They might very well earn an account ban on my end if they keep this up, which I’ve just warned them about.

                • StametsM
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                  Well would you mind taking a look at this dude?

                  He randomly sent me a message saying “Go fuck yourself” out of nowhere. I said “Cry harder” and thought I blocked him. Evidently not but that was his response.

                  Most of the harrasment I’ve been getting lately has been from the SJW instance and I’m not sure why.

        • @givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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          There’s been some pretty high visibility sex crimes from those identifying as trans.

          Compared to what?

          Can you link five that have happened in the last 20 years?

          If it’s a serious issue, that shouldn’t be a problem. But it’s weird these people never complain about all the abuse by clergy when there’s giant billion dollar world wide organizations covering it up for them.

          If you care about the children, why aren’t you going after the groups that actually abuse children significantly above the rate everyone else does it?

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      Generally that would be true. The issue comes from the difference between opinion vs fact. “LGBTQ+ people are humans and deserve the same respect as everyone else” is a fact. And as long as some people can’t accept that fact, there can’t never be both sides.

    • @i_dont_want_to@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      Let’s say there are two kids, Adam and Brad.

      Adam bullies Brad. He will hit Brad, destroy his belongings, and make mean spirited jokes about him.

      When Brad tries to deal with Adam peacefully, it does not end well for him. Ignoring the jokes does not make them stop. Asking nicely for Adam to stop destroying his things does not work, nor does trying to hide his stuff or asking him to stop sternly. Trying to deescalate, walk away, or defend himself does not stop the beatings.

      Brad asks authority for help. Authority tells him that Adam has a hard home life and to cut him some slack. They tell Brad that Adam will eventually stop on his own.

      Adam does not stop after Brad tries his best to keep the peace. One day, when Adam hits Brad, Brad hits back.

      Adam goes to authority and tells them that Brad hit him. Brad is now in trouble and gets punished by authority.

      I do not believe this is fair. Brad was just existing and Adam did everything he could to make Brad’s existence pain. Brad did what he could to make Adam leave him alone, and it was necessary to eventually fight back. This is not “both sides.”

      The problem with what you are saying is that there are many people that are fighting for trans people to not have the care they need, not have access to normal services, and not be safe in their day-to-day lives. While these are US-centric, similar things are happening in other countries too.

      The trans folks are not fighting for a difference in opinion, they are fighting just to live their lives. Their asking politely, voting, and peaceful protests have not stopped their systemic stripping of their rights. If they ignore orders, such as using a restroom they are banned from, they might even go to jail or get murdered. The threat is not just staying, it is also growing. It cannot be ignored. I agree that peacefully resolving conflicts is the best, and ignoring conflicts that just don’t matter is preferable. But when it does matter and peace is not working, it is time to escalate.

    • Ech
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      There is no “both sides” here. There is no opinion worth considering on the other side of someone’s right to exist.

  • @fidelacchius@lemmy.world
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    1010 months ago

    “follow my political stances or I’ll hurt you”.

    You should checkout Donald Trump. Sounds like y’all would have some stuff in common.

    • StametsM
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      Tolerance paradox. Google it.

      Banned for 7 days.

      • @LuckyBoy@lemmy.world
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        And this should be viewed as a social contract, not as a moral standard. If you break the contract being intolerant you are out of it and other People shouldnt have to tolerate you.

      • @DrownedRats@lemmy.world
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        It’s not intolerant to not tolerate intolerance. Tolerating intolerance is the one thing I won’t tolerate.

        • StametsM
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          410 months ago

          Yes. They said something foolish. They weren’t actively being bigoted or hateful. If they come back with the same energy after 7 days then it was not a simple error/mistake (and I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt) but will have demonstrated repeated behavior. At that point it would be permanent.

    • the post of tom joad
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      910 months ago

      you have tough circumstances, friend. Should i consider what you’re doing with this account a release from that daily burden, like kyles dad from South Park? Though I don’t really approve, i hope it gives you what you need to keep going.

      Good luck

    • BeautifulMind ♾️
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      Nope, that’s not the message here.

      The message is “I don’t like bullying”

      Trump, on the other hand, is a bully

      There’s a difference

    • @gmtom@lemmy.world
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      410 months ago

      Imagine having so little happiness in your life you waste your precious limited time on this earth badly trolling on lemmy.

      Have some some respect.

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    910 months ago

    Wow. So much for the lemmy community here.

    The only opinion I’m giving is respect others regardless of how anyone feels on the matter. And that still stands. I’m not giving any opinion on lgbtq+.

    But all these comments about “hitting others” and name calling is the complete opposite of respect. If someone has a view that you don’t agree with then talk, or say OK and leave the conversation.

    Don’t read too deep and make assumptions with my comments. My intentions are true, I just want a global community of respect.

    • @Stamets@startrek.websiteOP
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      he only opinion I’m giving is respect others regardless of how anyone feels on the matter.

      And that opinion is the problem. What you’re advocating for is to give equal respect to trans people and people who actively want to punish trans people for existing. Your opinion is inherently disgusting.

      No one needs to ‘read deep’. Your intentions are surface level. You are advocating for giving respect to those who hold the opinions that trans people should not exist and that it is a mental illness. The two are not similar and they are not deserving of respect.

      However I am going to ban you from this community now for a week while leaving your comments up just to point out how idiotic this stance is, how dangerous it is to trans people, how tone deaf it is, how disrespectful it is, and exactly the type of shit you shouldn’t say. Also that if you display this type of idiotic behavior that you deserve to be mocked and ridiculed endlessly for supporting those who do exactly that to people below them.

      Sit down, shut up and think about what you said. Read the responses from those who are actually impacted and stop trying to equate hate with love.

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        What you’re advocating for is to give equal respect to trans people and people who actively want to punish trans people for existing.

        Here’s the question. I have absolutely nothing against trans people existing and reject any politics that do anything harmful to them, but I have some doubts about why people become trans and how all this works for children. Do you put me in the second group?

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          I think you’re close to it but not over the line yet. That questioning is often used against trans folks. Provided you’re being respectful and coming from a place of genuine ignorance due to false information from the bigots then I’m not sure it’s an issue.

          However I will bring said that the way it works for children is not remotely a threat. Kids do not undergo severe therapy. They get “gender affirming care”. All that means is that they’re called what they wanna be called. If they have questions then they ask. You wouldn’t undergo any therapy that could not be undone. None of the therapy is harmful either with studies showing that there isn’t any impact on the kids. Note that straight men under go gender affirming care too. That would be stopping hair loss and erectile dysfunction as an example. GAC is just about making the person not feel like shit. If the kid changes their mind then they change their mind. No harm, no foul.

          As for doubts, they are irrelevant. They’re people living their own lives and not hurting anyone. Someone’s doubts don’t get to override their life. They wanna be trans? Let 'em be trans. They’re not hurting anyone, no matter what those 4 articles that get trotted out constantly say. A couple shit heads doesn’t reflect across an entire community. People don’t get to freak out about ACAB but then throw the same energy at the trans community.

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              I don’t have a problem with anything else you said there, but I do have a problem with this level of argument, which essentially claims that “if you think differently from me, you’re stupid and your sources are evil”.

              No. It is not. It is saying what I said. If you are coming at this from a place of genuine ignorance then no one is going to be upset. You do not get to say “it is unconvincing” when the thing you’re claiming is unconvincing simply didn’t exist. I’m going to ask you this once. Do not shove words into other peoples throats and assume what they are saying. As for clarification. I am not appreciative of having a stance forced on me that I did not make at any point. The only thing you could try and argue that for (and fail the argument of) is the bit about false information from bigots. You are conflating me saying bigots with everyone who is confused by the situation. That is a you problem. Not a me problem. i’m not saying that everyone is confused or ignorant is a bigot. I am specifically saying that bigots are bigots. If you have an issue with that then you need to look internally before you start accusing others of anything.

              The thing that gives me doubt is that we are clearly seeing increased levels of mental problems in young people due to smart device and social media use. This was made worse by Covid.

              And? Completely and utterly irrelevant to the situation at hand unless you’re trying to argue that being transgendered is a mental illness. That would be transphobia and would result in you gaining a permanent ban from this community and likely from the instance as a whole, as others in this thread have discovered. That isn’t a threat. It is a fact. I’m not trying to muscle you or overpower you or be big boss man. I’m trying to say that the behavior is repugnant because it isn’t true and pushes a genuinely dangerous narrative that puts others in harms way. For that reason, it is completely unacceptable.

              And there’s a correlation between mental problems and transgenderism.

              Yes. There is also a correlation between skirt length and the strength of the economy. However, it is completely worthless information that is not of any value to anyone as correlation does not equal causation. Ever think that the reason that trans folks are dealing with higher than normal levels of depression, anxiety and other levels of mental health issues are because of people who keep conflating being trans with having a mental disorder? They have mental health issues because people keep giving them mental health issues by not allowing them to exist. Here’s a shocker but kids who are actually listened to as a kid and brought up healthily as a trans kid and provided that gender affirming care I mentioned before? They end up having lower levels of mental health problems. Why? Because they had a stable support network of parents who listened to them and cared about them instead of trying to force their child to be something else because of their own mistaken beliefs on something they don’t understand.

              So what I’m really after is trying to protect my kids from unnecessary harm,

              Your feelings are irrelevant. You want to protect your kids? Then let your kids be themselves and stop trying to enforce and impose things upon them that are causing more damage than them being trans ever has.

              and I feel like I need truth to do that, and I feel like I’m not getting that.

              Your feelings do not matter. I don’t like the fact that the world sucks and I’m going to die younger than I should because of health problems but tough titties. The world is the way that it is. What you feel is the truth does not matter. The truth is the truth. Pull your head out of your ass. Start listening to people who proven in their field and have the medical science to back it up and who are supported by the majority in their field, not the minority who claim nonsense. Vaccines don’t cause autism and being trans isn’t a mental health disorder. Why? Because there is no evidence for it but there is a vast amount of evidence from people who have demonstrated, time and time again, that the people who keep saying “they don’t feel like it’s true” are dead wrong.

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      I don’t respect you, and i think your opinion is bad because it smacks of cowardice and servility.

      I’m of the opinion that you aren’t qualified to have an opinion, or a voice. I would like to see you banned because your “opinion” has had so many powerful rebuttals to it (that you haven’t and will not read).

      I propose mods permaban you.

      See, its not enough for me to block you. I believe your very existence on this platform, your insipid worldview, to be problematic. If i had the power to erase your dumb opinion from the whole world, i would.i really would.

      You, who you are, your connections and loves, they mean nothing to me. Your existence is only this dumb fucking opinion, if you died and brought that opinion with you, i actually would feel nothing but relief.

      Do you respect my opinion?

      (do you see what i tried to do there? Did i make it to overt? Not calling for anyone being hurt, c’mon. But yo man take the lesson, Christ!)

    • LinkOpensChest.wav
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      It’s centrists like you that aren’t wanted on Lemmy. Reddit loves Nazis and transphobes, why don’t you give that site a try, you’d fit right in.

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      At what point can we stop both sidesing everything? Is it when trans people are banned from public spaces? Is it when they’re rounded up and put into camps to be converted back? At what point are opinions no longer valid to you? Because clearly wiping out an entire sector of people isn’t that line.

      Go read some history about fascism and come back when you’re educated.

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      I just want a global community of respect.

      Some opinions are simply not worthy of respect. Like the opinion that there are two sides when it comes to someone’s identity. Or that one race is superior to another.

    • @lightnsfw@reddthat.com
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      So LGBT people should just let themselves be disrespected and not do anything about it? That’s basically what you’re saying here because the people they are disrespecting have already disrespected them.

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      I too didn’t get enough love from my parents so must say inflammatory things on Internet forums to get strangers to argue with me to fill the hole in my heart.

    • StametsM
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      Your logic is as worthless as your opinion. Permanently banned for transphobia.