I’ve been trying to find a good Marxist instance, but Lemmygrad and Hexbear are widely hated. Why is that? Are there any good leftist instances?

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    Just take a look at this question, all of the answers are from lemmygrad and hexbear users. You are not going to get a good answer from them because they’re the people you’re asking the question about.

    They are not hated they’re just annoying, no one really cares about their opinions the problem is is that they try and push their opinions on everybody else.

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      Yeah, they have a very alternative interpretation of geopolitics and they’re loud about it. If there was a flat earth instance with users that spammed every physics thread there would be some grumbling just the same.

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        Hexbear also weaponizes accusations of transphobia the same way Israel weaponizes accusations of anti-semitism.

        Now Hexbear hasn’t done any genocide yet, but it does loove to talk about executing people, many and frequently.

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      The hexbear and lemmygrad users/posts I run across in All mostly remind me of those street corner preachers. I don’t care one way or another about their ideologies but it’s tiring that they always feel the need to shout it in your face.

      I don’t hate them but find them to be obnoxious and mostly cult-like.

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        mostly cult-like.

        Very much like a cult actually. Often times the opinions they are espousing don’t actually make much sense even within their own ideology, mostly because their kids and they don’t actually understand what they’re talking about.

        It’s not communist ideology to claim that Tinnamon Square didn’t happen, it’s just China’s propaganda. It’s not the same thing.

        Equally criticizing China is not the same as criticizing communism as a concept. It’s perfectly acceptable to think that communism is good but what China did is bad, but these idiots won’t allow you to say that. If they actually understood what they were talking about they’d realized that, but they don’t because as you say they’re in a cult.

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      Well, when I see a .ml user from here on out I’m not sure I’ll be able to give them the same sort of leeway.

      I had one of their users confirm they were racist. Then I saw that only the parts where our conversation was removed by mods, and not shit canning the user.

      You want people to like you, don’t lie down with racists.

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        I concur about .ml. It’s been eye opening being on the receiving end of a homophobic rant by a moderator of their world news community implying I’m not queer enough. It wouldn’t surprise me that they’re racist, too. Bigots tend to subscribe to more than one strain of bigotry.

        I know it shouldn’t matter what people like that think, but I’d be lying if I said I’m not disappointed and dismayed. I’ve survived so many things and had a long hard road to self-acceptance. It’s disgusting to be invalidated by someone who likely has more than I’ve ever had.

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          I used to be confused when right wing nutjobs would say that the left is Racist, or Homophobic, or bigoted in general, it would make me confused as that wasn’t my experience and it’s not baked into left wing ideology. Hell, I didn’t really see it on reddit when I was there (the hate was from right wingers or gatekeepers).

          Then I came here. Nice place in general. Waaaay better users than reddit as a whole. But now I know where the RWNJs got the idea.

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            Ain’t that the truth! I will say during my tenure on reddit, I heard of CTH and thought to myself, “I ultimately support a similar vision for our future, how bad can it be?” I was shocked to find one of the most exclusionary, bigoted dens of filth I’d seen outside of places like r/T_D

            Ableist and bigoted language abounded, it was impossible to engage because they’d immediately bristle when anyone they perceived as beneath them wandered in.

            I see a lot of the same things here. It’s really disappointing to us leftists who actually want to effect change. No one will listen to people like that. Hopefully they’re just kids who grow out of … whatever this is.

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              I don’t recognise the acronym CTH, and by the sounds of it, I am lucky to have not stumbled across the subreddits you speak of.

              You mean kids growing out of being horrible people? Yeah, that’s the hope.

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                r/ChapoTrapHouse on reddit

                It got banned around the same time as r/The_Donald, and its users migrated here and founded Hexbear

                (I’m embarrassed that I know so much about this, but I was in another subreddit that discussed it a bit when it happened)

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          Middle class white gay men could use their privilege to help out the rest of the lgbtq community instead of being right wingers, but then that would require examining their privileges, and we can’t have that.

          So pointing out those privileges and how different rights affect different subsections of the community differently because of those privileges is homophobic./s

          Fuck off.