If Reddit were to revert it’s changes to 3rd party apps would you stay on Lemmy or move back to Reddit?

    • MyNameIsFred@beehaw.org
      21·
      2 years ago

      I dont see most less technical users moving at all without some more UI maturity. The whole federated services thing is just a bit too abstract a concept for most. And right now its difficult to find/join communities outside your instance.

      • Communist@beehaw.org
        8·
        2 years ago

        Honestly, there’s a pull request right now on lemmy-ui for instance agnostic linking, that combined with automatically staying on your instance will completely resolve the only issue I see for normal people.

        That and a little jank here and there but that’s bound to get buffed out.

        • MyNameIsFred@beehaw.org
          3·
          2 years ago

          Agree those two changes would be good. Along with making the ability to add topic sorting or community grouping where you can view say, all “technology” communities in a url. Or all Linux communities across instances in a big group etc.

        • girthero
          1·
          2 years ago

          Yeah thats my biggest issue so far… I can’t imagine explaining how to get my non tech literate friends on here yet. I kinda wish it was more ready before the reddit api fallout happened.

          • Communist@beehaw.org
            1·
            2 years ago

            Don’t explain it to them, just set them up with one of the bigger instances, and see how they do.

            Honestly, I think people are vastly overestimating what people need to understand in order to use the service, once the links keep you on your instance, federation is going to be seamless aside from choosing an instance to sign up on.

      • teawrecks@sopuli.xyz
        8·
        2 years ago

        The confusion seems unwarranted to me, though. It’s literally the same as email. Every time I discuss fediverse with people, all of their confusion stems from presumed complexity that doesn’t actually exist. The server they pick matters just as much as it does for their email. So the process is: create an account somewhere, and start interacting with communities. That’s it.

        • MyNameIsFred@beehaw.org
          7·
          2 years ago

          Right. Agree. But searching for communities, especially those outside your instance can be wonky. Finding communities and grouping like communities across instances is difficult as it currently sits. And it takes a bit of understanding how to search to find things.

          • dom@lemmy.ca
            1·
            2 years ago

            And the app for android doesn’t seem to let you search for and add new communities. It needs to be done from web browser from what I can tell

      • Hemingways_Shotgun@lemmy.ca
        5·
        2 years ago

        I don’t think it’s too abstract for people. I think we’re all just really bad at explaining it to non-techies.

        When you move to a city, choosing the neighborhood you want to buy your house in doesn’t stop you from being able to drive around looking at others.

        It ain’t rocket science.

      • mustyOrange@beehaw.org
        1·
        2 years ago

        See my post history if the ui is bothering you. With Sylus browser add on, some very small ui tweaks make the site much easier on the eyes

    • grant 🍞@toast.oooEnglish
      3·
      2 years ago

      after I found out about the fediverse I’ve wondered why not more people use it and why it wasn’t already popular

      • phire8@lemmy.mlEnglish
        3·
        2 years ago

        Because most people just don’t understand it. It’s has a high barrier of entry (relatively speaking) and there aren’t really any good mobile apps. While I love the idea of the fed Ivette I just can’t imagine trying to explain it to everyone that’s isn’t tech savvy.

        • panopticchaos@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          2·
          2 years ago

          I think that’s true for mastodon, but I suspect it’s going to be way less true for Reddit

          Twitter’s value proposition is roughly “one big giant conversation with everyone” and the federation stuff adds some complexity to that.

          Reddit already acted like a federation. There are ui and discoverability issues but they seem very solvable.

  • fossilesque@mander.xyz
    29·
    2 years ago

    Trust is the hardest thing to reclaim once lost, and this isn’t the first break. Big social is having problems, it’s the natural course of things.

  • ForynGilnith@lemmy.world
    24·
    2 years ago

    For me, they’d have to

    1. Replace /u/spez
    2. Implement some sort of publicly auditable accountability re: shadowbans and database-level comment editing
    3. Open-source significant parts of their platform.

    I have zero expectation that any of these things will happen. The most healthy way forward, for an open and free internet, is the meritocracy of the fediverse.

  • Anon2971@beehaw.org
    15·
    2 years ago

    I wouldn’t care. The irreversable damage is done.

    Reddit’s handling of the API change criticisms showed me how little they care about the community that keeps them afloat. The way the CEO’s AMA pretty much ignored all API change criticism (including comments asking why the new price is so extortionately expensive) whilst lying about Apollo’s developer threatening them… They’ve shown their real colours.

    I don’t want to use a platform prioritising profits above everything else now. I used Reddit for over a decade and they’ve eradicated my trust in a few days. Even if they reverse the decision, it’d be a PR move to temporarily save their sinking reputation. They clearly don’t care about moderators, users or anyone who actually makes Resdit the place it is (whilst begrudgenly adding bare minimum app exceptions for blind users becsuse they legally have to).

    Its a shame, but at the same time I’m excited to see where things go from here. Reddit’s always had a bit of a quality control problem due to sheer size. Maybe the mass exodus will lead to an alternative community discussion platform with a smaller, more refined, engaged userbase.

    I’m actually excited to see where things go from here to be honest. Maybe Reddit will become a home of pointless content like memes whilst deeper discussion happens elsewhere. Maybe that’d be better, actually.

  • kalipike
    14·
    2 years ago

    The CEO just tripled down and said they are not changing their intended API pricing regardless of how many subs and users go dark.

    Even if they did, I think a lot of redditors have been fed up with some things with Reddit (both the company and the first-party app) for a while.

    Of course, there will be people who just don’t care and will continue to go about their redditing as usual, and those who will go back. A fair number of my close friends don’t care at all as they use the first-party app, have no complaints, don’t moderate any subreddits, and don’t follow the Internet news.

    I would love to see my primary communities move over to federated social platforms. It reminds me of the Web1.0 and earlier Web2.0 days.

  • ddh@lemmy.sdf.org
    9·
    2 years ago

    I’ve returned to Reddit from Lemmy in the past, but this time it’s different. There are enough people posting content here now that it feels like a community (and not just a few nerds hoping it will take off). Never thought I’d say this but, thanks Spez for creating such a vibrant community.

  • 108beads@beehaw.org
    8·
    2 years ago

    Nope. Everyone makes mistakes. But you don’t go full Armageddon on the people whose blood, sweat & tears built you up from diddly, and then say “oopsie.” It don’t work like that, Spez. Have fun with your IPO.

  • knotthatone
    7·
    2 years ago

    No. I’m done. The admins had their chance to address the developers and community concerns respectfully. They instead chose to insult people, make false accusations and demonstrated a complete lack of humility and respect for the community that made their website have any value at all.

    Not that I expect them to reverse course on anything, but I won’t be coming back under any circumstances.

  • archchan@lemmy.ml
    6·
    2 years ago

    Reddit showed their hand and I’m just done with all these corpos. Reddit is my last hold out and I’m slowly leaving that too. I’m moving to the decentralized FOSS future that I believe in where we the people have the power.