• kirklennon@kbin.social
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    1 year ago

    Makes much more sense to me that DeNiro was telling the truth

    Nobody ever said he was lying. He made a statement, live, based on his current understanding of the situation. Later, someone else offered a perfectly plausible explanation.

    • long_chicken_boat@sh.itjust.works
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      1 year ago

      it’s too much of a coincidence that the removed parts were the most controversial ones. that’s a pretty weird change for allegedly an “older draft version”.

      additionally, it’s not the first time Apple has removed controversial topics in a short period of time. I might not agree with DeNiro at all, but I’m convinced that those parts of the script were removed purposefully by Apple.

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        1 year ago

        I’m aware, but at the moment on stage, it wasn’t possible for him to know the truth in the first place so it’s not about whether we think De Niro was “telling the truth.” He was speculating.

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          1 year ago

          He made a guess based on the evidence he had. It may or may not be “true” or factual. Either way, he wasn’t lying, and the person you responded to didn’t say anything about him lying.

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            You know, when I wrote it I actually questioned whether I should use the word “lying,” or if doing so would cause an overly nit-picking response, but I decided to expect the best in people. Surely they’d see that I was establishing a shared premise that he wasn’t lying, which is the usual opposite of “telling the truth,” while pointing out that he wasn’t necessarily telling the truth. There’s a middle ground of ignorance.

            But by all means, thank you for interjecting yourself in the conversation to state the obvious.

    • Haha@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      It’s not perfectly plausible when it happened earlier lmao keep shilling

    • CmdrShepard
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      1 year ago

      What’s plausible or reasonable about independently editing someone else’s speech and not even bothering to make sure they knew about it?