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    All of the companies that would instantly start losing a billion dollars per second would never allow this to happen. This isn’t some 3rd world country where Google and Apple and Facebook aren’t headquartered. The internet will always be happening here. They’re completely dependent on it and their customer’s constant access to it.

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    I’m seeing a lot of Newsweek posted here and that is disheartening, to say the least. Newsweek is half a step from the dailymail’s level of bombastic misrepresentation. Continued use of Newsweek as a source is not ideal as a result.

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    This is literally impossible to do without total economic and social collapse. It’s like saying you are going to shut off the electrical grid.

    Moronic statements made by moronic people who don’t understand what the internet is and think internet = websites.

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      Right? No internet means no economy. Even the simplest daily things like getting gas require an internet connection.

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        Literally every part of critical infrastructure has been connected to the internet.

        No internet means no water, electricity, emergency services, financial services, waste management…

        It’s the digital rod for our modern back.

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          Most of those emergency services have fall-backs for loss of connectivity. A lot of cases you need people manning consoles that are usually remote.

          Financial services are probably hardest hit. They still have a lot of private networks to keep themselves up say if they just iced DNS.

          But yeah, if they just proclaim no network anywhere financial would be doa.

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      If there’s a civil war in the U.S., they’ll absolutely tank the economy to stop the people from rising up. They’re tyrants. They don’t care about the well-being of the country but about maintaining their power over others.

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        Brownouts are not the same as shutting down the grid mate.

        SA has rolling brownouts because the grid cannot handle the demand. My example is that the whole grid shuts down. No country has ever done this.

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        I think you missed the point the other person was trying to make. They mean shut off all electrical grids. I don’t think South Africa has that power.

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    Miles Taylor, Trump’s former chief of staff at the Department of Homeland Security, was asked on MSNBC about what potential damage the former president, who is the frontrunner in the GOP primaries, could do in government without breaking the law.

    “The possibilities are almost limitless,” Taylor said. “The biggest concerns for me are on the national security side. I think Americans still don’t understand the full extent of the president’s powers and things Donald Trump could do, bubble-wrapped in legalese, that would be damaging to the republic.”

    “He could invoke powers we’ve never heard a President of the United States invoke—potentially to shut down companies or turn off the internet or deploy the U.S. military on U.S. soil,” he added. "We don’t know because the things that are in there, the emergency powers of the president, aren’t widely known to the American people.

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      I doubt the president who lives on the internet & relies on it to connect with his superfans would disable it.

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      So no one said that he would or even may turn off the internet, but that he may use legalize and his emergency presidential powers, if elected, to do something crazy. The person talking about it was spitballing and included turning the internet off as a example of something crazy that he might do.

      Edit: He indeed talked about geoblocking countries with groups like ISIS operating within them. At least that is what I assume he meant with his word salad. This is from post below mine. Still not turning off internet.

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        Oh Trump has blubbered about it enough that I would take it seriously.
        It wouldn’t be a legal mechanism if there was something stopping him from doing it.

        (from the article)

        “We’re losing a lot of people because of the internet,” Trump said. “We have to go see Bill Gates and a lot of different people that really understand what’s happening. We have to talk to them about, maybe in certain areas, closing that Internet up in some way. Somebody will say, ‘Oh freedom of speech, freedom of speech.’ These are foolish people. We have a lot of foolish people.”

        “ISIS is recruiting through the Internet. ISIS is using the internet better than we are using the nternet and it was our idea,” Trump said. “I want to get the brilliant people from Silicon Valley and other places and figure out a way that ISIS can’t do what they’re doing. I would certainly be open to closing areas where we are at war with somebody. I sure as hell don’t want to let people that want to kill us and kill our nation use our Internet.”

        When challenged, he added: “I’m not talking about closing the internet. I’m talking about closing parts of the internet where ISIS is.”

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      Stores and banks aren’t stocked or staffed for turning off e-commerce. Banks hate when customers walk in the door instead of doing everything online. And the stores woods have to find a drastically different equilibrium without internet advertising or orders. It would be absolute chaos.

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          He shuts down major backbones, effectively turning off the U.S. Internet. At the same time, he releases a story to the media and telcos about a major attack on the backbones - a virus, whatever. There’s panic and chaos, as the country grinds to a halt.

          He uses that to declare martial law.

          After a sufficient time (a small number of days, or even hours), he turns the backbones back on, claiming experts have fixed the problem. Citing martial law, he puts restrictions in place on the U.S, Internet, as dictators do.

          We now have severely limited access to real news and information, martial law, and a dictator in place. American Democracy is dead.

          Vote Democrat. No matter how much you think they’re the same, they aren’t.

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    To be clear this is unlikely to be a long term nation wide internet blackout. Rather, e.g., turn off the Internet in a section of a city and send in troops to deal with a protest.

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      Phew for a minute I was worried

      I would have accepted this take in 2016 but not anymore. He’s running again to avoid the consequences of his shitty stupid choices. If he wins he’s gonna feel completely unshackled.

      Oh and his allies have already been stacking the bureaucracy with loyalists. There won’t be any voices of reason in second administration because they already chased those people off.

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    Lol every country on the brink that has tried this has incited their own revolution. When people loose their distraction machines they tend to aim anger in the right direction. I say turn it off.