• douglasg14b@lemmy.world
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    In general high quality things tend to have physical buttons and knobs as opposed to touch screen devices.

    Instead of turning into e-waste after 5 years or less they can last for the next 30 to 50 years.

    How many smart thermostats have become obsolete because their service providers stopped providing cloud services for them?

    I just tore apart a working thermostat that almost 80 years old now (to understand how it works) and in perfectly working condition. It uses the physical properties of the materials inside to measure temperature (a coil of metal expands and contracts causing a pendulum to move clockwise or counterclockwise). Suspended at the top of this pendulum is a small vial of mercury containing two electrodes. When the pendulum is far enough counterclockwise the Mercury slides in the vial and bridges the electrodes, turning the furnace on, when the pendulum is far enough clockwise the mercury slides to the right and no longer bridges the electrodes.

    When you set the temperature on the thermostat you are changing the default position of this pendulum. Meaning that it has to move more or less distance for the bead of mercury to bridge the circuit.

    It’s brilliantly simple and will continue to work essentially forever. The physical characteristics of the materials involved won’t change.

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      How many smart thermostats have become obsolete because their service providers stopped providing cloud services for them?

      Same goes for pretty much every IoT device that people seem to be filling their homes with.

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        This is why, going forward, smart home products I buy have to be zigbee or zwave so I can integrate it with home assistant.

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          I thought this comment was trolling then I realized that zigbee and zwave are real brand names. You can’t make this shit up.

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            Haha yeah they’re IoT protocols for smarthome stuff. But an open source software called Home Assistant can talk to it, so you can self-host your home automation without your home being subject to the whims of some fragile tech startup and by extension, their investors.

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              Oh I see, that’s helpful and makes sense. I’m one of those newbs who took 15 hours to set up my own Jellyfin. Self hosting Home automation is a ways off in the distance for me haha.

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                Hey, same! Glad it was helpful.

                And hey it sounds like after 15 hours you DID get it set up, so congrats! The skills learned will keep transferring to your next projects. If you’re having fun, you’re winning. :)

                Home Assistant has a pretty rad community and guides on which devices it can use and stuff. They’re trying really hard to be accessible to the curious. So hey, never know!

          • This is fine🔥🐶☕🔥@lemmy.world
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            Yeah that’s how things are now.

            I was looking for kitchen scale and not a single recognisable brand was there on Amazon. No Phillips, Bosch, Siemens, Panasonic etc.

            Don’t know if these companies even make things like that anymore.

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              Yeah Amazon has opened the door to the lowest quality hardware out of China to put most name brands out of business for lower priced goods.