Along with the 0.5% rate of population decline, New York also recorded the largest decline in pure numbers, with a drop of almost 102,000 residents, according to the U.S. Census.

New York lost more residents – and at the largest rate – in 2023 than any other state, despite an overall rise in the U.S. population, according to U.S. Census data.

The bureau released a map showing the percentage change in state populations between July 2022 and July 2023 – New York stands out as the only state colored a deep orange, a label for a percentage change of -0.5 or more.

  • Pogbom@lemmy.world
    46·
    11 months ago

    I’m Canadian so I’m really asking this genuinely, but which liberties are being crushed in NY that aren’t in other states?

      • Death_Equity@lemmy.world
        3·
        11 months ago

        Guns, crime, and lower taxes. California, Oregon, Illinois, and NY are gun unfriendly, have barely enforced crime, and higher taxes. Texas and Florida are both gun friendly, actually enforce laws, and have lower taxes.

        Californians leaving California because of the state of California and voting to make their new state more like California is peak Californian cognitive dissonance.

        • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
          3·
          11 months ago

          Please provide evidence that all of Florida and Texas have lower crime than all of Illinois, California, Oregon and New York.

          And yeah, I’m not surprised guns was your main criterion, even before crime and taxes. Gotta have the precious.

            • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
              2·
              11 months ago

              So it doesn’t matter how much crime there is, it only matters how many people arrested there are? That’s your metric?

            • bamboo@lemm.ee
              1·
              11 months ago

              Enforcement metrics just show the rate that minorities get harassed by cops and aren’t proportional to crime itself. Crime statistics, unless comparing the same crime per-capita (ie, homicides per 100,000) tend to reflect the amount of regular activities criminalized rather than the number of harmful acts done by individuals (ie, make a drug that many people have a crime, and now you have more crime and more criminals).

      • Ageroth@reddthat.com
        3·
        11 months ago

        I just moved to upstate from the Bible belt, like half the people I’ve talked to about guns have complained that you aren’t allowed to shoot an intruder until they directly assault your person, not just them being on your property or inside the house taking stuff. Legit upset they can’t value their possessions more than another human life.

        • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
          1·
          11 months ago

          The person I’m talking to said they don’t care how bad the crime is, just how much police do about it. So yeah, they don’t care about crime or safety, they just care about violence.

    • Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world
      29·
      11 months ago

      Back then in NY, I could get a hotdog, peanuts, and a kabob from three different food carts.

      But now, some of these food carts are now clustered together instead of being a block or two apart!

      Worse, some of these carts are offering Sriracha instead of Tabasco!

      It’s easily the fall of mankind here in NY.

      • thatgirlwasfire@lemmy.world
        12·
        11 months ago

        You are legally allowed to own guns in NY state. When I lived in NY most people i knew owned at least one gun, though this was in a rural area.

          • gregorum@lemm.eeEnglish
            3·
            11 months ago

            So, which is it? You have no gun rights in New York, or you’re forced to own a gun? You can’t even keep your story straight, lol. 

    • SupraMario@lemmy.world
      3·
      11 months ago

      I would say the stop and frisk scandal was pretty bad. I don’t live there though and a lot of people moving out probably are tired of the economic inequality more than anything else.

    • yeather@lemmy.ca
      2·
      11 months ago

      For clarity reasons I would like to start by saying most of my knowledge is based on New York City and not the state as a whole, though most of the people in the state live in the city so this is alright in my eyes. New York City currently is one of the most bloated budgets in terms of taxes in the country. With all if those people presumably paying taxes for the city they live in you would think they wouldn’t have to charge each person so much to live there. NYC has a rampant homeless issue, and an overbudgeted, militarized police force to deal with them and normal citizens. Even with such a big police force they can’t do shit about the crime in the city. Ghettos in the burbs have little police presence because they don’t want to deal with the actual crime in the city, they would rather take the easy route of bullying homeless people trying to sleep. Speaking of crime in the city, overregulation on firearms ensure only criminals have access to anything, plus they do not have a right to stand ground law, leaving New Yorkers with one option if they were to be robbed at gun point. New York politicians would rather earn brownie points with constituants than do anything useful, leading to nothing happening and normal people suffering, and then leaving.